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Old 02-11-2007, 12:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

There's a third-party ISP called TechSavvy that's been getting good reviews from users. They don't throttle and use Bell's lines. Service is supposed to be good.

One last thing to try is using port 1720 for your torrent client. It probably won't work but a year or so ago it bypassed packet shaping due to Rogers using VOIP on that port.
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Old 02-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

I dunno what to tell you then, maybe I'm not throttled due to my High Speed "Extreme" package or something?
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I dunno what to tell you then, maybe I'm not throttled due to my High Speed "Extreme" package or something?
They choose which areas to throttle. You probably just aren't in a high traffic/usage cluster.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I dunno what to tell you then, maybe I'm not throttled due to my High Speed "Extreme" package or something?
No, it isn't the package. My friend is on the same, and he is well aware of the throttling in place. They probably just didn't get to setting it up in your area yet.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

I think my area is throttled now when over a year ago Toronto had many areas throttled. Looks like Rogers has finished testing out the packet shaping in Toronto and is trying it in other areas. I'm not entirely sure my connection is throttled but my upload isn't very fast but the downloads seem fine. It could just be I'm getting my torrents from private sites that have lots of seeders.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

There's been a lot of controversy lately about Comcast throttling its P2P users. Looks like the problem is at an end:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...es_bittorrent/
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

Just a heads up on Bell about a month ago they started implimenting the same throttling for P2P etc. The "up side" though is that other providers who rent bell lines are being hit by this as well, lucky us.

Thanks for the link there icky, Im with Bell and desperately need a new provider. I hope they can hook me up at that link you posted.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just a heads up on Bell about a month ago they started implimenting the same throttling for P2P etc. The "up side" though is that other providers who rent bell lines are being hit by this as well, lucky us.

Thanks for the link there icky, Im with Bell and desperately need a new provider. I hope they can hook me up at that link you posted.
After about a year of wanting to, I've finally been able to dump rogers and switch to teksavvy over a dry-loop connection. Their customer service is far superior to rogers/bell/cogeco, and I'm sure you will be quite happy with them.

They also seem quite committed to fighting bell over their throttling of 3rd party DSL providers, so who knows, it may not be long before we can surf unfettered again.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:38 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

Funny thing I was looking at Velcom and Tecksavvy. I called up Bell to cancel and they bent over backwards to have me stay. Currently Im on a 5mb plan but at best I get 1.2mb downloads max , my modem is old but it was all I new was available. I call and they offer me the 7mb plan, a new modem and all for cheaper then the slower Velcom plan. What pirates Bell is, they don't offer you anything until you plan to leave. Im going to try it out for a month free and see how it is. If Im happy I will sign up for a one year deal and do it all over again at the end. If not Im happily jumping ship for Velcom or Techsavvy.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Funny thing I was looking at Velcom and Tecksavvy. I called up Bell to cancel and they bent over backwards to have me stay. Currently Im on a 5mb plan but at best I get 1.2mb downloads max , my modem is old but it was all I new was available. I call and they offer me the 7mb plan, a new modem and all for cheaper then the slower Velcom plan.
If they throttle the connection, it doesn't matter how fast the line speed, your speed is still capped at 30 kb/s during peak hours for torrents.

Unfortunately, their traffic shaping service often mistakes any encrytped traffic (Remote Desktop, VPN, VOIP, ssl-imap etc) as undesirable and caps those as well. I can live with torrent throttling, but this seriously gimps working from home over a secure connection and other perfectly legitimate internet use that I pay for.

Independent internet providers like teksavvy are currently subject to the same throttling, but the Canadian Association of Independent Internet Providers have filed a legal challenge to Bell's practice of throttling, and hopefully this pans out. An interesting read about the issue here: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2799/159/

I sincerely hope your bell service sucks total bag, and you'll find your way to an independent interent provider (punishing bell in the process) that doesn't use it's monopoly to bully competitors and consumers into sub standard service.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Bittorrent throttling

Thats funny, my wife had the same attitude. She said screw Bell go with another company. I will give it a try and see if the throttling effects me. I know I only torrent once and a while so that I can live with. If it starts screwing with normal downloads or my network then I will bounce it.
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