Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless - Page 2

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 05-11-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

That some requests should be denied does not imply that all should. You must have some kind of slippery slope argument in your mind. I can't see how honoring the guy's request here will imply that we need to honor requests that may not be practical or used for delaying execution.

The rules say (as far as I understand them) that the condemned gets a final meal. Doing anything out side would be breaking the rules.

That alone should be enough, of course.

But I do see a bit of a slippery slope, yes. If these type of things where to happen often then society might begin seeing these monsters as human beings. Then it might start looking into who is on death row and who isn't. Then it might start questioning the death penalty.

War.mongeR1 · 05-12-2007, 12:56 AM

What was he thinking?! Hasn't he seen the recent South Park about the homeless? You give a hobo anything, and then they'll be coming in droves and won't leave! Then they'll all harass you for change. Now the homeless will never leave the jails!

**CingularDuality** · 05-12-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by War.mongeR1

Now the homeless will never leave the jails!

Heh... In Dallas, whenever the weather gets uncomfortable, the bums will cause a ruckus somewhere just so they will be arrested and can spend some time in jail.

War.mongeR1 · 05-12-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Heh... In Dallas, whenever the weather gets uncomfortable, the bums will cause a ruckus somewhere just so they will be arrested and can spend some time in jail.

That's pretty smart. No excuse to be homeless and in the cold, when there are good 'ol jails that will shelter you, clothe you, and feed you for free! As long as you don't mind a little bubba lovin'.

**Guardianx11x** · 05-15-2007, 10:17 AM

I maintain that the homeless shelter is populated by his buddies.

**cookieMONSTER** · 05-22-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

That some requests should be denied does not imply that all should. You must have some kind of slippery slope argument in your mind. I can't see how honoring the guy's request here will imply that we need to honor requests that may not be practical or used for delaying execution.

forgive my lack of tact. i have a way with just spitting stuff out and saying to hell with how it sounds, as long as it represents what i think.

what makes sense to me is this. if this guy decides that he wants to send his meal to the homeless/hungry, and the state is undecided upon whether or not they want to honor that wish, then the man about to be executed should have a choice. 1) forfeit your last meal in hopes that the state will honor his wish, even if it means they have to 'think about it' or 2) say nevermind about the homeless/hungry, give me a steak. either way, the guy should be executed on time and without delay.

being able to postpone execution because you cant decide what you want to eat is straight up nonsense.

traygreen · 05-30-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarenth

Spending $1200 in donations on pizza for one day is bloody waste. Spending that same money to fund a shelter or soup kitchen for a longer period of time instead would've done some good.

Well stated. $1200 could also buy a lot more meals based on beans or rice.

**sordavie** · 05-30-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cookieMONSTER

forgive my lack of tact. i have a way with just spitting stuff out and saying to hell with how it sounds, as long as it represents what i think.

what makes sense to me is this. if this guy decides that he wants to send his meal to the homeless/hungry, and the state is undecided upon whether or not they want to honor that wish, then the man about to be executed should have a choice. 1) forfeit your last meal in hopes that the state will honor his wish, even if it means they have to 'think about it' or 2) say nevermind about the homeless/hungry, give me a steak. either way, the guy should be executed on time and without delay.

being able to postpone execution because you cant decide what you want to eat is straight up nonsense.

Okay? But his execution wasn't postponed because of this, and it wasn't a way to postponed it anyway. What makes you assume that he did this in order to postpone his execution? What does this have to do with whether the state should honor his request or not?

**deathknight** · 05-30-2007, 04:12 PM

while i think his request was self serving maybe he is innocent and feels that his last meal may help someone else? alot of ppl have been cleared recently of charges because of dna evidence. others have been wrongfully imprisoned due to bad defense attorneys, confessions due to repeated questioning with out an attorney, the lack of reliability in eye witness testimony, etc.

i'm not saying he's guilty or not or that he was altruistic or self-serving just putting out a different pov

i think the state is right to say no since rules should be enforced as much to the letter as possible imo to make it easier and fairer for the ppl the rules affect

i also agree with the idiocy of the ppl who took up a collection for the pizza ... if they really cared for the homeless they would donate their time and money to helping them get back on their feet - not that i do anything to help the homeless but i try to give what little i can afford when i see someone collecting money for a worthy cause rather than wait for some death row inmate to remind me of the cause

traygreen · 06-05-2007, 03:17 PM

Working on a college campus, I see a lot of people (yes most of them young and idealistic) that get caught up in ill-conceived causes. Does that make them gullible or me jaded?

norden · 06-09-2007, 05:40 PM

Wow. Maybe we shouldn't execute...

Wait a second. I know what he's trying to do!

05-12-2007, 12:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
War.mongeR1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,313	Re: Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless What was he thinking?! Hasn't he seen the recent South Park about the homeless? You give a hobo anything, and then they'll be coming in droves and won't leave! Then they'll all harass you for change. Now the homeless will never leave the jails! __________________ "Common sense is not so common." -Voltaire

05-15-2007, 10:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
Guardianx11x Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Midwest/DC metro Age: 23 Posts: 870	Re: Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless I maintain that the homeless shelter is populated by his buddies. __________________ 2142: \|TG-3d\|Guardianx11x CoD4: \|TG-3rd\|Zodiac

05-30-2007, 04:12 PM	#24 (permalink)
deathknight Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Age: 33 Posts: 342	Re: Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless while i think his request was self serving maybe he is innocent and feels that his last meal may help someone else? alot of ppl have been cleared recently of charges because of dna evidence. others have been wrongfully imprisoned due to bad defense attorneys, confessions due to repeated questioning with out an attorney, the lack of reliability in eye witness testimony, etc. i'm not saying he's guilty or not or that he was altruistic or self-serving just putting out a different pov i think the state is right to say no since rules should be enforced as much to the letter as possible imo to make it easier and fairer for the ppl the rules affect i also agree with the idiocy of the ppl who took up a collection for the pizza ... if they really cared for the homeless they would donate their time and money to helping them get back on their feet - not that i do anything to help the homeless but i try to give what little i can afford when i see someone collecting money for a worthy cause rather than wait for some death row inmate to remind me of the cause

06-05-2007, 03:17 PM	#25 (permalink)
traygreen Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Age: 41 Posts: 16	Re: Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless Working on a college campus, I see a lot of people (yes most of them young and idealistic) that get caught up in ill-conceived causes. Does that make them gullible or me jaded? __________________ Tray Green ABandofGamers.com Tours for Gamers

06-09-2007, 05:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
norden Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 37	Re: Death Row Convict donates last meal to the Homeless Wow. Maybe we shouldn't execute... Wait a second. I know what he's trying to do!

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