US Economic Policy - Made in China - Page 3

xTYBALTx · 08-15-2007, 01:08 PM

I think you have them backwards, leejo.

effect:
5 : power to bring about a result : INFLUENCE <the content itself of television...is therefore less important than its effect>

affect:
1 obsolete : FEELING, AFFECTION
2 : the conscious subjective aspect of an emotion considered apart from bodily changes; also : a set of observable manifestations of a subjectively experienced emotion <patients...showed perfectly normal reactions and affects -- Oliver Sacks>

**sordavie** · 08-15-2007, 01:25 PM

Did you want to say that government spending makes the economy happen or did you want to say that government spending influences the economy? If the first, then 'effect' was correct. If the latter, then you should have used 'affect'.

leejo · 08-15-2007, 02:06 PM

Tybalt, you just got Sordavie'd and leejo'd! May I say "bam"?

xTYBALTx · 08-15-2007, 02:21 PM

This is the WORST DAY OF MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THIS!!!!

Wait, I still don't get it though... the M-W definition for affect says nothing about influence, but the M-W definition for effect does.

Kerostasis · 08-15-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xTYBALTx

This is the WORST DAY OF MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THIS!!!!

Wait, I still don't get it though... the M-W definition for affect says nothing about influence, but the M-W definition for effect does.

Thats because you pulled "Affect: 1: noun" Instead of "Affect: 3: Transitive Verb". As we use it today, Affect is usually a verb.

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Originally Posted by M-W Definition

3-Affect : to produce an effect upon: as a: to produce a material influence upon or alteration in <paralysis affected his limbs> b: to act upon (as a person or a person's mind or feelings) so as to effect a response : influence

xTYBALTx · 08-15-2007, 02:30 PM

Ah, grazie. That crafty M-W. Always trying to fool me!

leejo · 08-15-2007, 02:52 PM

It can have that effect on people.

**sordavie** · 08-15-2007, 06:05 PM

It can also effect confusion in people.

leejo · 08-15-2007, 08:08 PM

Absolutely! It affects many people that way.

xTYBALTx · 08-15-2007, 08:30 PM

There crazy like that, aren't they.

Silas Ender · 08-16-2007, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xTYBALTx

There crazy like that, aren't they.

"There" would indicate that you are speaking of a place. I suppose it is safe to assume that you mean "They're", or "They are" crazy like that.

xTYBALTx · 08-16-2007, 06:54 PM

Our you positive about that? I wasn't sure that they're was much of a difference between the too.

Zephyr · 08-16-2007, 07:34 PM

The effect of this thread hijacking is that many people will not be intellectually affected by discussion of the topic of monetary policy...
-Zephyr

Boot · 08-16-2007, 11:38 PM

Yeah, we pretty much channel surfed past Friedman and went straight to the GGW infomercial.

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Originally Posted by xTYBALTx

I thought that Bastiat, some hundred and fifty years ago, largely put to rest some of the more common misconceived notions that government spending generally positively effects the economy.

Largely put to rest would indicate that people know it and believe it. That is not the case. In fact government largesse is a solid plank in the democratic party platform, and both parties contribute to Congress' negative fiscal discipline.

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Originally Posted by Alexander Tytler (attributed)

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

I'm not a doom and gloomer, but Tytler has a heck of a point here.

xTYBALTx · 12-17-2007, 08:08 PM

China's Economy 40% Smaller Than Previously Thought

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Originally Posted by The BBC

China's economy, the world's second largest, is not as big as was thought, a report by the World Bank has claimed.

According to the bank, previous calculations have overestimated the size of China's economy by about 40%.

The revelation came after the bank updated the way it calculated the country's gross domestic product (GDP).

The bank said the findings meant China would not become the world's biggest economy in 2012 as forecast. It also meant China was poorer than estimated.

08-15-2007, 01:08 PM	#31 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,676	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China I think you have them backwards, leejo. effect: 5 : power to bring about a result : INFLUENCE <the content itself of television...is therefore less important than its effect> affect: 1 obsolete : FEELING, AFFECTION 2 : the conscious subjective aspect of an emotion considered apart from bodily changes; also : a set of observable manifestations of a subjectively experienced emotion <patients...showed perfectly normal reactions and affects -- Oliver Sacks> __________________ Current Tybalt theme song: Mason v. Princess - Perfect "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

08-15-2007, 01:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
sordavie Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 1,782	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China Did you want to say that government spending makes the economy happen or did you want to say that government spending influences the economy? If the first, then 'effect' was correct. If the latter, then you should have used 'affect'. __________________

08-15-2007, 02:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,421	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China Tybalt, you just got Sordavie'd and leejo'd! May I say "bam"?

08-15-2007, 02:21 PM	#34 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,676	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China This is the WORST DAY OF MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THIS!!!! Wait, I still don't get it though... the M-W definition for affect says nothing about influence, but the M-W definition for effect does. __________________ Current Tybalt theme song: Mason v. Princess - Perfect "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

08-15-2007, 02:30 PM	#36 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,676	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China Ah, grazie. That crafty M-W. Always trying to fool me! __________________ Current Tybalt theme song: Mason v. Princess - Perfect "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

08-15-2007, 02:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,421	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China It can have that effect on people.

08-15-2007, 06:05 PM	#38 (permalink)
sordavie Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 1,782	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China It can also effect confusion in people. __________________

08-15-2007, 08:08 PM	#39 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,421	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China Absolutely! It affects many people that way.

08-15-2007, 08:30 PM	#40 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,676	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China There crazy like that, aren't they. __________________ Current Tybalt theme song: Mason v. Princess - Perfect "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

08-16-2007, 06:54 PM	#42 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,676	Re: US Economic Policy - Made in China Our you positive about that? I wasn't sure that they're was much of a difference between the too. __________________ Current Tybalt theme song: Mason v. Princess - Perfect "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

08-16-2007, 07:34 PM	#43 (permalink)
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