Whats the deal with all these cop killings?

**Magnum50** · 08-11-2007, 10:04 AM

Man, I am in shock this year on the number of fellow officers killed in the line of duty... what the hell is going on with society lately...

I get a e-mail notice every time a officer is killed in the line of duty... on a normal year we average about one officer death every 3 days...while still too many... this year we are averaging just over one a day...very sad...

Three were killed just yesterday, including one near here, (we got word the killer was en-route to Naples on a Greyhound bus... we locked that bus terminal down and checked them all...no luck thou...

Sad time for law enforcement and there familes...

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=MAXx= · 08-11-2007, 10:49 AM

My prayers will be along side with others for the lives lost in the line of duty. Truly, death has become all to fimiliar in modern society. People have lost the apreciation for the miracle of life.

FatCobra · 08-11-2007, 11:03 AM

I think in these times, officers should be given more then just a handgun, and should be allowed to use force more quicker then after they are already shot at.

PFunk · 08-11-2007, 11:33 AM

I give the Border Patrol and our sheriff's deputies in the border counties one year before they simply walk off the job and say, "Screw it."

pfunk

Atomic Dog · 08-11-2007, 12:47 PM

I think our society is nearing boiling point. It's very much an "Us vs. Them" mentality in most of our major urban ghettos around the country. Even in our smaller ghettos things are beginning to get out of control. This year already we had a young cop killed in the line of duty...good guy too. Not your average cop. It's very unfortunate that the good ones are usually the first to go.

Atomic Dog · 08-11-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by =MAXx=

My prayers will be along side with others for the lives lost in the line of duty. Truly, death has become all to fimiliar in modern society. People have lost the apreciation for the miracle of life.

When you consider history and periods like the "Dark Ages," it's clear that life has never been appreciated all too much by society as a whole. People with power tend to see people as expendable resources. It's only the poor who fight to keep what they've got. And sometimes they fight to take what they don't have. It's unfortunate, but this has been life for centuries and centuries. You'd think in our "civilized" age of "enlightenement" we'd be ready to move past that...but all it takes is a glance at your local news to know we're nowhere near that point.

Atomic Dog · 08-11-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PFunk

I give the Border Patrol and our sheriff's deputies in the border counties one year before they simply walk off the job and say, "Screw it."

pfunk

Well...when you're punished for doing your job, what can the federal government really expect them to do but quit?

War.mongeR1 · 08-11-2007, 01:12 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about that. That's why it personally offends me and ticks me off when rappers say horrible things about cops and what they'd like to do to them, and these punks become successful and rich off this garbage.

**Magnum50** · 08-11-2007, 02:38 PM

OK, 2 new e-mails...thats 5 officers killed yesterday... ONE DAY!

=MAXx= · 08-11-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by War.mongeR1

I'm so sorry to hear about that. That's why it personally offends me and ticks me off when rappers say horrible things about cops and what they'd like to do to them, and these punks become successful and rich off this garbage.

I rip farts that sound better than that garbage. IMO.

Atomic Dog · 08-11-2007, 03:00 PM

It's not the fault of the rapper, they're just making money off anger that has long existed amongst minorities and poor people long before rap music ever hit the scene. Music that inspires people to revolt has been going on in our country since at least the vietnam war era that I can recall. Anyone remember Kent State? I'm sure it was around long before Vietnam as well, just never so mainstream.

These feelings are not completely unfounded. It's just unfortunate that a few bad apples in law enforcement have spoiled the whole damn bunch.

**CingularDuality** · 08-11-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFunk

I give the Border Patrol and our sheriff's deputies in the border counties one year before they simply walk off the job and say, "Screw it."

pfunk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic Dog

Well...when you're punished for doing your job, what can the federal government really expect them to do but quit?

I was just going to bring that up, along with the Billy Anders case, or the Gilmer Hernandez case.. When US Attorneys and District Attorneys are putting cops in prison for shooting bad guys in the line of duty, well, there are going to be a lot more dead cops for as long as the cops are afraid to do what needs to be done in those type of situations. A moments hesitation while a cop ponders whether or not it's worse to spend decades in prison, locked up with the very people that he put there, or, well, the other 'or' doesn't matter, because that moment's hesitation is all it takes to end a cop's life.

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 08-11-2007, 09:39 PM

Crime is up just about everywhere. Especially violent crime. I heard a story on the radio the other day that the common causes are not present this time around. Poverty has not increased markedly. Unemployment is pretty low. The economy is not bad. Drug use has not spiked.

Some blame the malaise over the war. I think that is going to far. But I don't know what else it could be.

I have a gut feeling that Atomic Dog has it right. A "us vs them" mentality is taking hold of many. The "if you are not with us you are against us, so we will kill you" type thing.

Atomic Dog · 08-12-2007, 01:08 AM

I believe, that though poverty hasn't increased much, those who are poor have been for far too long and I think this has a lot to do with the growing violence problem in our nation. If the government cannot step in and do something to bring wealth into our poorest neighborhoods then this problem is only going to get worse and worse I fear. And as a result, more innocent lives will be lost to it. It's a shame that this could ever happen when their are those in our nation who's wealth measures into the billions.

Hambergler · 08-12-2007, 01:27 AM

Crime is down, and arrest are up.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/cv2.htm

The reason more cops are getting killed is because the police work has gotten better and they are getting closer to perpetrators more often.

08-11-2007, 10:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Magnum50 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Naples, Florida USA Age: 42 Posts: 3,866	Whats the deal with all these cop killings? Man, I am in shock this year on the number of fellow officers killed in the line of duty... what the hell is going on with society lately... I get a e-mail notice every time a officer is killed in the line of duty... on a normal year we average about one officer death every 3 days...while still too many... this year we are averaging just over one a day...very sad... Three were killed just yesterday, including one near here, (we got word the killer was en-route to Naples on a Greyhound bus... we locked that bus terminal down and checked them all...no luck thou... Sad time for law enforcement and there familes... http://www.odmp.org/index.php __________________ Magnum www.gettacticaldammit.com

08-11-2007, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
=MAXx= Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: somewhere in between heaven and hell. Miami Posts: 405	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? My prayers will be along side with others for the lives lost in the line of duty. Truly, death has become all to fimiliar in modern society. People have lost the apreciation for the miracle of life. __________________ After a hard long day on the battlefield, you just wanna play some ball but some idiot wont let you because he has an explosive bag of pitchers' powder....

08-11-2007, 11:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
FatCobra Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 249	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? I think in these times, officers should be given more then just a handgun, and should be allowed to use force more quicker then after they are already shot at.

08-11-2007, 11:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
PFunk Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 30 minutes from Crawford, TX Age: 35 Posts: 12	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? I give the Border Patrol and our sheriff's deputies in the border counties one year before they simply walk off the job and say, "Screw it." pfunk __________________ "Do not be overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good." - Romans 12:21 (NIV) It took God six days to create the Earth. The Corps of Engineers have been putting the finishing touches on it ever since.

08-11-2007, 12:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Atomic Dog Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 31 Posts: 4,070	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? I think our society is nearing boiling point. It's very much an "Us vs. Them" mentality in most of our major urban ghettos around the country. Even in our smaller ghettos things are beginning to get out of control. This year already we had a young cop killed in the line of duty...good guy too. Not your average cop. It's very unfortunate that the good ones are usually the first to go. __________________ \| ArmA SOPs \| PCS SOPs \| TG Primer \| 4th Wiki \| Ikariam Info: Mothership \| Parliament \| Chocolate City \| Saint George

08-11-2007, 01:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
War.mongeR1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,293	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? I'm so sorry to hear about that. That's why it personally offends me and ticks me off when rappers say horrible things about cops and what they'd like to do to them, and these punks become successful and rich off this garbage. __________________ "Common sense is not so common." -Voltaire

08-11-2007, 02:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Magnum50 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Naples, Florida USA Age: 42 Posts: 3,866	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? OK, 2 new e-mails...thats 5 officers killed yesterday... ONE DAY! __________________ Magnum www.gettacticaldammit.com

08-11-2007, 03:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Atomic Dog Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 31 Posts: 4,070	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? It's not the fault of the rapper, they're just making money off anger that has long existed amongst minorities and poor people long before rap music ever hit the scene. Music that inspires people to revolt has been going on in our country since at least the vietnam war era that I can recall. Anyone remember Kent State? I'm sure it was around long before Vietnam as well, just never so mainstream. These feelings are not completely unfounded. It's just unfortunate that a few bad apples in law enforcement have spoiled the whole damn bunch. __________________ \| ArmA SOPs \| PCS SOPs \| TG Primer \| 4th Wiki \| Ikariam Info: Mothership \| Parliament \| Chocolate City \| Saint George

08-11-2007, 09:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
El_Gringo_Grande Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OKIE HOMY Age: 39 Posts: 2,514	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? Crime is up just about everywhere. Especially violent crime. I heard a story on the radio the other day that the common causes are not present this time around. Poverty has not increased markedly. Unemployment is pretty low. The economy is not bad. Drug use has not spiked. Some blame the malaise over the war. I think that is going to far. But I don't know what else it could be. I have a gut feeling that Atomic Dog has it right. A "us vs them" mentality is taking hold of many. The "if you are not with us you are against us, so we will kill you" type thing. __________________ Sen. Barack Obama (IL) For President '08 --- I’m not racists, I have republican friends. Radio show host. - "The essence of tyranny is the denial of complexity". -Jacob Burkhardt - "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - Emerson - "People should not be afraid of it's government, government should be afraid of it's People." - Line from V for Vendetta - If software were as unreliable as economic theory, there wouldn't be a plane made of anything other than paper that could get off the ground. Jim Fawcette

08-12-2007, 01:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
Atomic Dog Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 31 Posts: 4,070	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? I believe, that though poverty hasn't increased much, those who are poor have been for far too long and I think this has a lot to do with the growing violence problem in our nation. If the government cannot step in and do something to bring wealth into our poorest neighborhoods then this problem is only going to get worse and worse I fear. And as a result, more innocent lives will be lost to it. It's a shame that this could ever happen when their are those in our nation who's wealth measures into the billions. __________________ \| ArmA SOPs \| PCS SOPs \| TG Primer \| 4th Wiki \| Ikariam Info: Mothership \| Parliament \| Chocolate City \| Saint George

08-12-2007, 01:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
Hambergler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 33 Posts: 1,058	Re: Whats the deal with all these cop killings? Crime is down, and arrest are up. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/cv2.htm The reason more cops are getting killed is because the police work has gotten better and they are getting closer to perpetrators more often. __________________

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