Zephyr

Alright and I'm sure it is also reasonable to say that anyone who thinks the American government has anything but BAD intentions is ALSO dead wrong?

I also would suppose that since anyone with financial or political power would never use his power for the betterment of mankind, we should all technically...still be hunter gatherer societies that periodically collapse as power hungry males die off? How could there could possibly be progress in human history if everyone with the power to do so is actively trying not to give back to society?

And if one chooses to counter that argument that those greedy capitalist self-interested individuals of the small political-economic oligarchy are the only individuals that brings innovation and thus progress to humanity and thus that is somehow evil, get used to it. That, for one thing, isn't new and it sure isn't "evil", its a meritocratic system.

The people in power are there because they have "won" the game of economics and/or familial ties, and many people don't like that. Sure, one can bicker that most of them inherited their wealth and as a result they have unfair advantages, but it certainly doesn't stop them from being complete idiots who are responsible for both financial and strategic blunders (yes, our President is covered by this description).

On the note of that poor man, I'd like to point out that it is laughable that anyone would pin the Iraq war on him and make it a case of "the President's war". I think a few Wikipedia searches on Neoconservatism, the American Enterprise Institute, and Irving Kristol would greatly help out anyone here who is actively searching for a rationale for war that isn't oil, imperialism, or Halliburton.

On another note, an interesting thing about a conspiracy theory is that it can never be proven true because it is a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a construct that relies entirely on hate, insecurity, and an incredibly firm desire to believe that something that they as individuals do not like (or aspire to have control over, because they do not like those who have the power or what they're doing with it) is actively trying to screw them over, personally.

No one posts these threads here to educate us, one posts them here in hope of converting us. That is all any conspiracy group really wants; more followers, more believers, and thus more of a group to call their own and affirm their own beliefs and attitudes. They operate and act, for better or worse, in the same manner as a cult.

I would like individual skeptics to read these three articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...2%80%931945%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...8since_1988%29


Please inform me of the similarities between the pre-Nazi Germany state and both the United States at that time as well as the United States in recent years. I would like to know, in particular, which time period in the United States's history was, if at all, closer to having the political problems or emulating the governmental policies of the Weimar Republic.

If you want the truth, or for that matter power, you will take the time out of your life to seek it. If you want an easy answer and just don't have the drive to "really" try to start empowering yourself, you will wait for someone to spoon-feed a nice already constructed world view to you.
-Zephyr

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ScratchMonkey

Has anyone else read "The Ominous Parallels"?

http://www.peikoff.com/op/home.htm

I read this back around 1980 and it seemed plausible at the time but the book is too foggy in my memory to remember what Peikoff was predicting and how well reality compares.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and choose my words carefully when I say that I'm gong to take a slightly nationalist view on the OP.

You live in Canada. I live in America. Constructive criticism is fine.

To compare our country to 1930's Germany seems...illogical to me. At the height of Germany's post WWI depression, people were basically paid in WHEELBARROW fulls of Weimar monetary units, because thier currency at that point was absolutely useless. I'd like to mention, not to cause friction, that in my underststanding the US dollar was considerably worth more in exchange rates than the Canadian dollar. When the US reaches the point where inflation is so great that bread costs hundreds of dollars, THEN we have the makings of revolution. I firmly believe that if inflation was ever that bad that the nation would have to re-organize its government. I can only hope peacefully. But is there really anyway to stop inflation? Economists can try, but its more of a social problem in my opinion.

I'm not a fan of people bringing "facts" into internet debates. Wikipedia, while a good general source, is NOT to be trusted. My school will absolutely under no circumstances accept a wiki as a source.

To be honest, I believe the OP had strong overtones of Canadian supremacy; As far as I am concerned, this was a constructive view on American politics, not comparrison or "fact" presentation. "FACTS" were also in "Loose change," and god help you if you believe in the "FACTS" from a google video.

Excuse my pompous behavior, but I also dont believe you wrote your post. It seems like something taken off of some second rate blog or CrimeThink. Crime Think uses the same sort of formats, bolding Topics and then citing below.

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