Re: Flight Sims for Noobs

**=Sarc=** · 06-02-2005, 09:24 PM

I think I tried Falcon 4 once. There was a bunch of things to learn but Jex and Fanatik always compare flight sims to Falcon. They also have a bunch of good fun with IL2 (Pacific Fighters) but I'm not into flying those old planes. I find it very difficult to stay alive because it's more about piloting skills and fast thinking. Lock On has been my favourite but the rest of TE doesn't really like it because of old missions and some graphics issues. It just seems easier to fly a jet with advanced instruments. All the concentration then goes to the attack plan.

**leejo** · 06-02-2005, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by USN_Squid

I still fly them both off and on depending on the mood. LoMac is fast and furious with rockets and s*&t while IL2 is tactical with more weight placed on how well you can outfly your opponent.

I know nothing about Falcon 4.0, but from the screens I've seen I think all the money I've spent to make my games look pretty would be wasted on it. But, and there's always a but, the people you play with make the game so if you guys get it going I'll jump in.

Yeah the graphics are pretty dated but the sim is WAY more detailed than either lomac or IL2. It's a constant pleasant surprise. That and there's a true dynamic campaign. Flying along on a night mission you can see all sorts of activity going on down below and lots of friendly and unfriendly traffic in the air to sort out. It's just a flat out bangroovitasticzimzamzoodle of a sim. I can't wait to see what this update really looks like.

**Mateo** · 06-03-2005, 03:48 AM

Ok, I found a copy of Falcon 4, which was not as easy as I thought it would be. Now, what do i need to download. I found patch 1.08. Was that the last one? And what about these Superpaks (4.0/4.2) that Fileplanet has? What else do I need? I saw mention of something called hyperlobby as well....it that necessary?

**USN_Squid** · 06-03-2005, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Ok, I found a copy of Falcon 4, which was not as easy as I thought it would be. Now, what do i need to download. I found patch 1.08. Was that the last one? And what about these Superpaks (4.0/4.2) that Fileplanet has? What else do I need? I saw mention of something called hyperlobby as well....it that necessary?

I found this "How to get started in Falcon 4.0" thread over at Simhq.

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boa...;f=31;t=004252

**HiJacK** · 06-03-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Meat_Drapes

I actually belong to a virtual Airline with rank and can earn fake money for flying routes that are designated by the airline. Its quit a complex site. I even bought a yoke and pedals.

flightbase2000.com... check it out

Everything is done in realtime. I am rambling now... I like fightsims. All kinds

Wow thats freaking intense so how often do you play meat? and do you just download the client from that website?

**Mateo** · 06-05-2005, 02:46 PM

Wow, I really don't know what I am doing....and Falcon 4.0 runs dog slow on my system.

**leejo** · 06-08-2005, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Wow, I really don't know what I am doing....and Falcon 4.0 runs dog slow on my system.

What are your specs? F4 is a pretty old game.

Did you get the manual with your copy? It's kind of required reading. I think there's an SP4 manual out there...I'll look at lunch and edit this post if I find it. A lot of the key commands and functions depend on which patch you've installed, SP or FF, so watch for that.

Play the training missions one at a time, and don't worry about learning the avionics until you can land every time. There's a lot to learn in this game and you have to eat the elephant one bite at a time.

Have you read BeachAV8R's training missions over at Simhq?

**Mateo** · 06-08-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by leejo

What are your specs? F4 is a pretty old game.

AMD 1.53ghz
1gb Corsair RAM
190 GB HD (110+80)
PNY Verto Nvidia 5900LE (128MB RAM)

I found that using the config from the SP4 patch worked wonders. FRAPS now reads ~20fps, which is acceptable for play. There are some frame skipping and terrain smoothing effects that were added that put a big hit on the CPU.

Did you get the manual with your copy? It's kind of required reading. I think there's an SP4 manual out there...I'll look at lunch and edit this post if I find it. A lot of the key commands and functions depend on which patch you've installed, SP or FF, so watch for that.

SP4 manual is included...it's really in depth, but some of it I figured out by doing some instant missions.

Play the training missions one at a time, and don't worry about learning the avionics until you can land every time. There's a lot to learn in this game and you have to eat the elephant one bite at a time.

Have you read BeachAV8R's training missions over at Simhq?

Good suggestions. I haven't read BeachAV8R's stuff, but now I think I will.

**leejo** · 06-08-2005, 06:20 PM

Holy crap I can't believe I found this:
http://users.telenet.be/whity/F-16s/f4_manual.pdf

So yeah, just read that and you'll be set.

Interesting thing about F4 I learned last summer: you can pretty much read the ACTUAL Lockheed-Martin f-16 manual, do what it says to do in F4, and it works as described. Pretty much every thing in F4 is as it is in the real deal, with radar ranges, missile performance, classified stuff changed to protect the good old us of a.

**=Sarc=** · 06-09-2005, 01:01 AM

Yeah, Jex and Fanatik ran me through Falcon the other day. It's slow over dial-up though. It's definitely an immersive sim. I like how you don't really have to remember all these key buttons because you just remember where the actual button is in the cockpit.

The campaigns are awesome to play online. I tried over dial-up but it's just too much information to pass so load times are long. It's great though. It's not like Lock-On where the skies seem so barren. The campaign missions have other missions flying at the same time so you can hear and see updates. You could pass by an engagement along the way to your mission objective.

The thing with Falcon is it's old so the graphics aren't top notch. However, you can really see where the development money went. Everything about it has made it the most immersive flight sim I have ever played. It is truly something to compare to future flight sims. If something newer doesn't cut it, you go back to Falcon.

**Dodger** · 06-09-2005, 01:13 PM

End of the month, hopefully:

http://www.lead-pursuit.com/products.htm

**Mateo** · 06-09-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dodger

End of the month, hopefully:

http://www.lead-pursuit.com/products.htm

Yah....check the front page!

Say, Dodger, does +SD have a fighter wing?

**Dodger** · 06-10-2005, 07:27 AM

A few of us fly LOMAC, a few IL2 FB and a few F4. We hope to get everyone on board with Falcon:Allied Forces when it come out latter this month.

**Mateo** · 06-10-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dodger

A few of us fly LOMAC, a few IL2 FB and a few F4. We hope to get everyone on board with Falcon:Allied Forces when it come out latter this month.

Post over here as well when you do. I'm sure we'd be able to pry some folks away from Battlefield 2 long enough for a couple of sorties.

**TG_JBRanger** · 06-13-2005, 04:23 PM

I fly IL2. Good times. Fly with 13th Squadron. I've been flying with them for about a year. Good guys. We just started a new campaign taking us from the beginning of the war to the end.

As real as it gets....

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