Soldner MP Beta Demo

=Sarc= · 04-07-2004, 11:28 AM

http://www.secretwars.net/

Well, I downloaded this yesterday but I couldn't get it to run. I know Riyker got it but the servers were overloaded with traffic. Maybe somebody will have better luck today. The official forums should be back up today. I got in there for a bit of browsing to find a fix to my problem. It looks like they shut it down yesterday because of all the traffic they were getting. Apparently, there's this portal system that shares the connection with the website and the game has to be able to communicate with the portal. There were too many new account creations and traffic through the portal that everything was overloaded.

It is now day 2 of the MP beta demo and I hope Jowood has learned a lot from the demo release. They first screwed up with the first release, not expecting file hosts to add a few bytes to the demo file causing the installer to not run because of a CRC mismatch. Then their servers were inundated with traffic because of all the people trying out this highly anticipated game. The first problem was unforseen and was fixed within 30 minutes. The second could have been prevented and should never happen again. If they expect to use a MP account system then it better be able to support more traffic. When retail is released, players don't want that system going down.

Now, back to trying to get this beta demo to work...

jex · 04-07-2004, 12:50 PM

What's the chances of getting this on TG servers?

=Sarc= · 04-07-2004, 03:20 PM

The chances are slim mainly because of Jowood's fault or maybe their hosts fault, HomeLAN. Servers are up but they're having so many network issues that not many can connect to servers or even create portal accounts. I think it was a bad idea releasing a beta demo. It's a great way to get feedback but they should have made it people have to sign up for it. Too many are expecting this to work right and it's not working at all.

jex · 04-07-2004, 03:32 PM

D/L'ing it now - 38 mins to go

=Sarc= · 04-07-2004, 04:26 PM

You might as well wait until next week when I'm back from my Easter trip. I tried a couple of times today to connect to server or just connect to that stupid portal and timed out. Sometimes you can log on but then you time out connecting to a server or find that a server is passworded. The network is bogged down so much right now that it's not worth playing. It's going to take them a while to fix all their network problems.

jex · 04-08-2004, 06:55 AM

Yeah you got that right - I can connect to portal ok but every damn server just times out. Why can't I make my own server? At least that way I could run around and see how the game plays....

04-09-2004, 03:00 AM

I went thru pretty much the same stuff as you guys... What I found works the best is to host up my own server, then password protect it so that it limits the hits to just us guys without all the overhead of a barrage of people trying to connect to any old server.... With Blind, Opus, Killswitch, Archangel and myself in tonite, most of our pings were under a 100 and we played pretty well for quite awhile... then the servers crashed and that was the end of it.... this game has a lot of potential... I think there must be some guys that made Operation Flashpoint involved in this, because the helo's fly exactly like OFP, and sound like OFP... this is a good thing... the game seems to take elements from OFP... BF1942 and bits and pieces of other games we all play... all in all I think we will be spending some time in this.... Chek6.... Fanatik

oh.. and as a sidenote... my IP today made available a new package to me with increased speeds... I'm getting 3mbs down now, and 256 up.... certainly not a T1, but should allow me to host up stuff like LOMAC, IL2 and such until we can get the dedicated servers going..

en4rcment · 04-10-2004, 12:20 PM

Ok....downloading now...90% completed...

Now how are TG members playing this? Do I go to TS and find you guys there and someone will host a game? or has TG got a server up and running yet?

**Apophis** · 04-10-2004, 04:19 PM

We've got a sever up at 209.19.57.59

It should show up in your server browser provided it hasn't baked up as it's prone to do.

fr1j0l3 · 04-21-2004, 02:02 PM

Anyone actually playing this?

I tried a couple times, but I crashed a couple times, and the other times I lagged so bad it took me minutes to switch weapons....

edit.. found this on the secretwars site:

Quote:

Originally Posted by site

US Beta Demo problems - 2004-04-08

The Soldner team is well aware that many of you have been experiencing a myriad of problems installing the beta demo and getting onto the servers to play. Rest assured, we hear you. We are working hard to address and resolve these issues quickly, so you can get up and playing as soon as possible.

No updates since then it seems.... bummer

=Sarc= · 04-21-2004, 02:17 PM

I tried playing it a couple of days ago but I didn't bother because of problems. First I couldn't connect to a server or I don't know what it was doing. The connection messages are a little confusing. Then I tried to connect to another server and crashed. It was such a bad idea releasing this beta demo. Their network didn't scale very well to the increased traffic and the program itself isn't stable enough for testing. Beta is a word reserved for software that is nearly complete and is ready for stress testing, useability and unforseen bugs. I mention the word Soldner and the game crashes. So I guess it doesn't help that it says, "Soldner" when you start the game up or enter the server listing.

fr1j0l3 · 04-21-2004, 02:35 PM

found this.. kinda funny, mostly sad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWord

Its not that you cant connect, you just havent spent enough time to learn how to work around the bugs...

If you cant connect and are getting time outs, send challenges, etc... Most likely the server is crashed or full or just doesnt like you...

You need to try another server.

You can only try 4-6 servers before the main log in server will disconnect you for some reason. If it disconnects you, if you try to reconnect you will most likely crash to desktop... You need to manually disconnect yourself (top right corner of screen) before that happens and then reconnect youself. Then try some more servers. If you dont get in, repeat the process. Occasionally I will restart my game if I dont get in anything but after the first day or two I havent had any big problems getting into a server. Read farther to find out a quicker way to restart the game...

If you do crash to desktop you need to hit ctrl+alt+delete and you need to end a process in order to get a wierd little icon out of your task bar... The process is jwd.exe or something along those lines I cant remember exactly right now. If I get disconnected automatically from the main log in server for whatever reason, I will usually go ahead and click reconnect and crash my game because it takes less time than quitting the game and re-opening it...

Only join servers with around 5 people in them. Dont worry they will fill up. Once the server is filled it is only a matter of time before the inevitable crash. If you spend enough time with it, you will eventually get into a server that doesnt crash after 5-10 minutes and you may get anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour or more. I have good luck with nVidia and Art of War and occasionlly the Beta servers but those are hit and miss for the most part

All this nonsense just to play.... eeeek

(and all this has happened to me)

en4rcment · 04-21-2004, 03:05 PM

That was hilarious frij!!! I thought it was a humorous commentary...but it was REAL...which makes it more funny...

To be honest, I REALLY wanted to like this game. The concept, large maps, foilage you could walk through, vehicles, etc really appealed to me.

The Beta/Demo was one of the worst things I have EVER seen. That looked like a very very early alpha version of the game.

There is also the issue of destructable environments. Apparently, nice looking environments are too difficult to make destructable, so they made the ugliest, low poly environments possible...

Add to this the game will be released WITHOUT MP CO-OP and they promise to patch it in later (yeah right...).

Unless something changes drastically, I will be skipping this title like the plague...

fr1j0l3 · 04-21-2004, 03:21 PM

Yeah... this reads like sarcam, but it's true, which makes it sad....

Patch for the demo was supposed to be out last week...

If there's no co-op without a patch, yikes.... Too many other games that look as good or better to choose from.

Mot73 · 04-21-2004, 05:10 PM

"Mot navigates to Add/Remove Programs"

Hope that works

04-07-2004, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,635	Soldner MP Beta Demo http://www.secretwars.net/ Well, I downloaded this yesterday but I couldn't get it to run. I know Riyker got it but the servers were overloaded with traffic. Maybe somebody will have better luck today. The official forums should be back up today. I got in there for a bit of browsing to find a fix to my problem. It looks like they shut it down yesterday because of all the traffic they were getting. Apparently, there's this portal system that shares the connection with the website and the game has to be able to communicate with the portal. There were too many new account creations and traffic through the portal that everything was overloaded. It is now day 2 of the MP beta demo and I hope Jowood has learned a lot from the demo release. They first screwed up with the first release, not expecting file hosts to add a few bytes to the demo file causing the installer to not run because of a CRC mismatch. Then their servers were inundated with traffic because of all the people trying out this highly anticipated game. The first problem was unforseen and was fixed within 30 minutes. The second could have been prevented and should never happen again. If they expect to use a MP account system then it better be able to support more traffic. When retail is released, players don't want that system going down. Now, back to trying to get this beta demo to work... __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

04-07-2004, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
jex Join Date: May 2003 Location: United Kingdom Age: 37 Posts: 3,430	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo What's the chances of getting this on TG servers? __________________ Jex

04-07-2004, 03:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,635	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo The chances are slim mainly because of Jowood's fault or maybe their hosts fault, HomeLAN. Servers are up but they're having so many network issues that not many can connect to servers or even create portal accounts. I think it was a bad idea releasing a beta demo. It's a great way to get feedback but they should have made it people have to sign up for it. Too many are expecting this to work right and it's not working at all. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

04-07-2004, 03:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
jex Join Date: May 2003 Location: United Kingdom Age: 37 Posts: 3,430	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo D/L'ing it now - 38 mins to go __________________ Jex

04-07-2004, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,635	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo You might as well wait until next week when I'm back from my Easter trip. I tried a couple of times today to connect to server or just connect to that stupid portal and timed out. Sometimes you can log on but then you time out connecting to a server or find that a server is passworded. The network is bogged down so much right now that it's not worth playing. It's going to take them a while to fix all their network problems. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

04-08-2004, 06:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
jex Join Date: May 2003 Location: United Kingdom Age: 37 Posts: 3,430	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo Yeah you got that right - I can connect to portal ok but every damn server just times out. Why can't I make my own server? At least that way I could run around and see how the game plays.... __________________ Jex

04-09-2004, 03:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Fanatik Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo I went thru pretty much the same stuff as you guys... What I found works the best is to host up my own server, then password protect it so that it limits the hits to just us guys without all the overhead of a barrage of people trying to connect to any old server.... With Blind, Opus, Killswitch, Archangel and myself in tonite, most of our pings were under a 100 and we played pretty well for quite awhile... then the servers crashed and that was the end of it.... this game has a lot of potential... I think there must be some guys that made Operation Flashpoint involved in this, because the helo's fly exactly like OFP, and sound like OFP... this is a good thing... the game seems to take elements from OFP... BF1942 and bits and pieces of other games we all play... all in all I think we will be spending some time in this.... Chek6.... Fanatik oh.. and as a sidenote... my IP today made available a new package to me with increased speeds... I'm getting 3mbs down now, and 256 up.... certainly not a T1, but should allow me to host up stuff like LOMAC, IL2 and such until we can get the dedicated servers going.. Last edited by Fanatik; 04-09-2004 at 03:04 AM.

04-10-2004, 12:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
en4rcment Join Date: May 2003 Age: 35 Posts: 620	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo Ok....downloading now...90% completed... Now how are TG members playing this? Do I go to TS and find you guys there and someone will host a game? or has TG got a server up and running yet? __________________

04-10-2004, 04:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,993	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo We've got a sever up at 209.19.57.59 It should show up in your server browser provided it hasn't baked up as it's prone to do. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

04-21-2004, 02:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,635	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo I tried playing it a couple of days ago but I didn't bother because of problems. First I couldn't connect to a server or I don't know what it was doing. The connection messages are a little confusing. Then I tried to connect to another server and crashed. It was such a bad idea releasing this beta demo. Their network didn't scale very well to the increased traffic and the program itself isn't stable enough for testing. Beta is a word reserved for software that is nearly complete and is ready for stress testing, useability and unforseen bugs. I mention the word Soldner and the game crashes. So I guess it doesn't help that it says, "Soldner" when you start the game up or enter the server listing. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

04-21-2004, 03:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
en4rcment Join Date: May 2003 Age: 35 Posts: 620	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo That was hilarious frij!!! I thought it was a humorous commentary...but it was REAL...which makes it more funny... To be honest, I REALLY wanted to like this game. The concept, large maps, foilage you could walk through, vehicles, etc really appealed to me. The Beta/Demo was one of the worst things I have EVER seen. That looked like a very very early alpha version of the game. There is also the issue of destructable environments. Apparently, nice looking environments are too difficult to make destructable, so they made the ugliest, low poly environments possible... Add to this the game will be released WITHOUT MP CO-OP and they promise to patch it in later (yeah right...). Unless something changes drastically, I will be skipping this title like the plague... __________________

04-21-2004, 03:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
fr1j0l3 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,342	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo Yeah... this reads like sarcam, but it's true, which makes it sad.... Patch for the demo was supposed to be out last week... If there's no co-op without a patch, yikes.... Too many other games that look as good or better to choose from.

04-21-2004, 05:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mot73 Join Date: May 2003 Location: DuBois, PA Age: 43 Posts: 586	Re: Soldner MP Beta Demo "Mot navigates to Add/Remove Programs" Hope that works

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