The Random Weapon Info Thread

[MagnaCentipede]

I was playing around and figured I'd share my notes.

Universal
All weapons have a base damage value. This is NOT a limit. Close-up, weapons will do up to +50% base, though that requires being inside the enemy. (e.g., inside a foe, rocksalt does 88 or 89.) All crits unless proven otherwise are +200%.
Shotgun is 6 × 10-pellets.

Scout
Scattergun, like the other shotguns, is base 6 × 10-pellets.
Pistol is base 15 and Bat is base 35.

Soldier
Rocket Launcher has a variable base from 45 at the fringe to 90 for a body strike.

Pyro
Applied directly, Flamethrower base is 6.80, at range it varies downward slightly. Burn is base 3 and triggers 20 times.
Flaregun is base 20.
Axetinguisher is base 65 like normal axe, but normal crits are ignored and damage is halved during calculation.

Demoman
Remote base is controlled by range, from 60 to 120. Pipe base seems to be about 100 for direct hits, though slightly higher may be possible. Low limit seems to be around 30ish.

Heavy
Sasha has a base of 9 × 4-pellets. (It functions like an automatic shotgun.) This is why sometimes you'll catch a crit off of it and only feel a tingle, while other times you get hit "once" while running by and suffer massive damage.
Fists are the same as the common melee stats, 65-base.

Engineer
Engineer's pistol has a base of 15.
Sentries have a base of 16 and sentry rockets a base of 100.

Medic
Both needleguns do the same damage, base 10.

Sniper
Sniper Rifle base is 50. Charging adds up to +100 base. However, the guage is not intuitive. Base stays at 50 until the first lighting bolt vanishes. It then increases linearly to +100. Thus, a short charge is meaningless.
SMG base damage is 8.

Spy
Revolver and Balisong normal slash is base 40.
Any balisong attack that counts as a backstab or backslash re-calculates base equal to twice the target's HP. An animated backstab will then receive the crit amplification. Hence, a fresh heavy will recieve 1800 damage from an animated backstab. A backslash does not get any multiplier, but since the base is double-target's-HP, is it still lethal, though the actual damage is subject to the randomizer. An example backslash on a 5HP Scout could be 7.27 damage.

[Atra]

That's some awesome data, Magna. I'd be interested to see how much the splash damage of the rocket launcher varies per 1ft of in-game space. How you'd measure such space however, I don't know.

[Fish #641]

I'm just curious on how you figured this all out. You just divide the crit damage by 3 to find the base damage? But then there is a ton of other information as well.

[MagnaCentipede]

I told the game to reveal itself unto me.

[Fish #641]

By the power of Grayskull!

[Spyder]

I know a demo can kill a soldier in a single crit pipe, becuase it's happened to me coming out of a spawn on more than one occasion (stickies were not involved)

[TheSkudDestroyer]

Snipers don't do enough damage.

[Headshot Yoshi]

Originally Posted by TheSkudDestroyer

Snipers don't do enough damage.

I disagree with that. I may hate the SMG and be a little sore when magna revolvers me with 2 shots, but I think they're a balanced and versatile class with their damage output.

[MagnaCentipede]

LOL, like last night where I threw 12 at you and only four counted and you got away with 4HP.

[Headshot Yoshi]

Originally Posted by MagnaCentipede

LOL, like last night where I threw 12 at you and only four counted and you got away with 4HP.

At the same time I swear 2 headshots should of counted by didnt.

[MagnaCentipede]

You traded them for the one fired while you were soring through the air.

[Headshot Yoshi]

I was playing Counter-Fortress

[MagnaCentipede]

brb, restricting awp

[Atra]

Hey Magna, I was wondering if you could grab some data for me? I'm at my mothers and I doubt I'll have access to TF2 till Monday. I need some information on the knockback effects of the soldiers rocket. Possibly how close the rocket needs to hit for them to actually fly into the air, that type of thing. It seems very random to me. I'll hit people right at their feet and they won't fly, while other times they'll go soaring into the air, and it makes the job of getting airshots extremely hard, because you don't know when to expect them. Thanks for your help.

[LazyEye]

When people go really flying its becuase they were in the air already when you hit them with knockback. The higher they were in the air when hit the further they fly. Also I think the more damage you do the further people fly but I could be wrong on that one.

Jumping all around can be a bad thing if a medic is healing you becuase you will fly away when hit by a rocket/nade/sticky/airblast.