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Old 10-20-2007, 06:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Re: Spy Defense

I don't get why people think spies are not good for a team. Fair enough some players will not be very helpful with them. But a spy can take down sentries and enemy snipers, which is VERY useful.

Also, if you co-ordinate, the spy can sap a sentry in time for a soldier or whatever to come in and blow it and the engineer up.

Finally, having 1/2 Pyros is very useful, they take out spies better than anyone and they are great defenders anyway, especially when near the spawn or a dispenser.
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Scout spy is faster than naked spy. Not full Scout speed, but it is faster. Try it out...you'll feel a kick when the mask comes on.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Re: Spy Defense

Spys aren't a patient bunch. A good spy is patient. Spy's main priorities should be sapping, not stabbing.

But like Fenix said, there aren't very many good spys out there. So don't let any offense classes get behind you. Travel in packs, but far enough to recognize everyone's personal space. "Comm Check!" every now and then. Don't waste shooting at each other.

Pyros shouldn't just be spy patrol, but that's what they are. Communication is key.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Scout spy is faster than naked spy. Not full Scout speed, but it is faster. Try it out...you'll feel a kick when the mask comes on.
And also stupidly easy to spot, since your model still "runs" at scout speed, ie road-runner style.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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lolrly. I'd seen that but never thought much of it because Valve software likes to do that sort of goofy things when there is a lag issue.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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lolrly. I'd seen that but never thought much of it because Valve software likes to do that sort of goofy things when there is a lag issue.
Yeah, that was a spy
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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FYI I'M A SPY
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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OMG that was funny.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I'm gonna use that when pubbing to get the nubblies to spy check more often.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
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That's such a good spray! I'm so gonna use it!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:18 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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Heh I'm sure we'll be seeing that spray around a lot more often...
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Re: Spy Defense

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I don't get why people think spies are not good for a team. Fair enough some players will not be very helpful with them. But a spy can take down sentries and enemy snipers, which is VERY useful.

Also, if you co-ordinate, the spy can sap a sentry in time for a soldier or whatever to come in and blow it and the engineer up.
I generally don't mind spies. I mind the people who tend to play the class. They think that spies are a "rambo" class and that they can take out sentries all on their own. A good spy can take out sentries all day when it's just 1-2 engies defending. What gets them is a pyro sitting back for spy DF.

In this instance, teamwork is paramount. Combat classes hang back and harass the pyro. The spy saps and kills the engy if possible, then the combat classes move up to actually kill the sentry. I've seen this tactic in use and it is awesome to watch the effects.

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Finally, having 1/2 Pyros is very useful, they take out spies better than anyone and they are great defenders anyway, especially when near the spawn or a dispenser.
Agreed.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
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Dustbowl is won or lost depending on Pyro deployment.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:59 PM   #29 (permalink)
 
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Dustbowl is won or lost depending on Pyro deployment.
Daxx showed us an example of this the other night...he was devastating, especially on the spies.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
 
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I bet that medic was thinking 'FYI I am a spy... Now who sprayed that? Oh ****!'
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