Wii - first impressions? - Page 2

**jmaker** · 11-21-2006, 12:31 AM

Hold on, does it only come with that wii remote controller or can you still use a regular controller to play Zelda with? I'm confused. How do you use that wiimote to play Zelda?

Karkianman101 · 11-21-2006, 12:53 AM

The Wii comes with a wiimote and a nunchuck (the little thing with the thumbstick and two triggers). The wiimote itself has an A button on top, a B trigger on bottom, a D pad, a -, +, and home button, and 1 and 2 buttons.

With the nunchuck, you move link with the thumbstick, target with the z trigger, and look around in 1st person with the c button.

With the wiimote, you talk to your helper (Midna) with the up d-pad, you assign items to B with the other three, you use the item with the B button, the A button is context sensitive (open doors and such), you access inventory with the -, you access equiptment/options/saves with the +, the 1 puts the map up, and the 2 toggles the minimap.

Fighting: you get your sword out by shaking the wiimote. Shaking it different ways and while moving different directions and when locked on vs not locked on produces different swings. A is still the power strike, and for the spin attack you shake the nunchuck side to side. The game also has seven 'hidden' attacks that you can learn, such as a killing blow for stunned opponents (power strike a stunned opponent), or a shield blow which makes enemies recoil (flicking the nunchuck forward).

It may sound a little weird, but now that I'm used to it it works even better than the old control scheme. Not once in TP have I made a single mistake because of shoddy controls, which isn't the case with the other two 3d zeldas. However, should you be wary of this set-up, I'm fairly sure that plugging a gamecube controller into the top might work.

icky · 11-21-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopStick

I'm seeing alot of people using their kids as an excuse to get one. I see stuff like the nintendo wii as the future of gaming. The wiimote increases our capability to interact and creates a more immerse gaming environment. The Wii doesn't just have kids games. So stop using the excuse. Stand pround and go buy find a wii.

I use my kids as the justification for ALL of my toy purchases. I bought my daughter a Lego Robotics set when she was 2.

**CingularDuality** · 11-21-2006, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyDeviant

I live in a College dormatory, and eight people have bought Wii's, and I've seen about three different games, and more controllers than I could bother to count. I've seen all of its capabilities, and I must say, moving the controllers around, in a group setting, is possibly the most fun thing I've ever done on a console.

Yes! I know that there's some cheesy acting in this video, but I can totally see the Wii promoting exactly such cheesiness! I can't wait to get one!

Marvel Ultimate Alliance!

=Sarc= · 11-21-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by icky

The point is that if you focus on the REAL releases, the reviews aren't bad at all. People certainly shouldn't expect ports of "normal" games to be as good or better on this system when compared to the others. It's all about the Nintendo bread-and-butter games. If I can get 4 drunks in a room swinging those controllers around playing Super Smash Bros, it will be worth a whole lot more to me than anything else a console could do.

Edit: It will support 4-player, right?

Smash Brothers won't be using the remote. It requires the Classic controller, which is sold separately.

I'm hoping for a nice Black Friday shipment so I can pick one up!

icky · 11-21-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by =Sarc=

Smash Brothers won't be using the remote. It requires the Classic controller, which is sold separately.

Why go on living...

Bomberman? Will there be a Wii version of Bomberman?

=Sarc= · 11-21-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by icky

Why go on living...

Bomberman? Will there be a Wii version of Bomberman?

I'm not sure. If there is, it might not use the Wii remote either. Well, I guess there could be a 3D version that would use the remote.

The big problem is getting one. It's been quite a popular console in Ottawa!

**RandomGuy** · 11-21-2006, 12:23 PM

any word if smash brothers will have online multi-player?

SmokingTarpan · 11-21-2006, 12:24 PM

Just make sure that you hold onto your controller!

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2183346

That's one way to kill a 60-inch TV.

Zephyr · 11-21-2006, 01:18 PM

Don't feel bad about getting a Wii...

http://nexgenwars.com/

See? They're set to seize 1/7th of the gaming market in 2 more days.

-Zephyr

**Gambit7** · 11-21-2006, 02:36 PM

Anyone else besides me think the folks at Xbox have something else up their sleeve to pwn the market even more? Now there's XNA of course, but I have the feeling there's gonna be more. And my feeling leans towards some kind of special interface that may perhaps go further then the Wii's. Perhaps some kind of VR interface, i dunno.
It's really a shame u cant have Wii's functionality with the power and codeability of the Xbox

icky · 11-21-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambit7

It's really a shame u cant have Wii's functionality with the power and codeability of the Xbox

There's no doubt that if the Wii controller is popular, variations of it will come out for other platforms, even the PC.

**Gambit7** · 11-21-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icky

There's no doubt that if the Wii controller is popular, variations of it will come out for other platforms, even the PC.

Technically, Wii technology is REALLY old. It's just the implementation that's new. They basically use IR tracking (simple enough), only the twist is it detects where ur pointing the remote by looking, instead of simply flashing a light from the screen at it to determine where u pointing. They also use accelerometers and gyrometers to determine acceleration and position in space. To tidy it all up it's got sensor tracking to determine the position of every remote in space - i assume by utilizing all the technologies in one.

And of course to get all this info. to the console and back it uses Bluetooth technology.

As for the PC, all this stuff has been developed loooong ago... mostly for hardcore sim-heads. Nintendo really just crammed it all into one cheap, swanky package. Smartly, they bought up most of the companies that produce a lot of this tech. also - which is why they can sell us Wii's for $250. Makes you feel STUPID to go out and by an IR Head Tracker system for $500 doesnt it?

<sigh> amazing the price difference... this is why I like to build my own electronics.

thebleakaffinity · 11-21-2006, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icky

Why go on living...

Bomberman? Will there be a Wii version of Bomberman?

You can download the TurboGrafx-16 version

**ThePenguineer** · 11-21-2006, 08:15 PM

Hehe. My friends are really excited about it and a few are going to come over to my house later this week to try it out. All I have is Wii sports and Zelda right now, but that should be enough to let them try it out to see if they want to get one too. It's gonna be fun comparing the reactions of 20 somethings to the console to that of a 9 year-old girl's.

11-21-2006, 12:31 AM	#16 (permalink)
jmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warren, OH Age: 28 Posts: 2,646	Re: Wii - first impressions? Hold on, does it only come with that wii remote controller or can you still use a regular controller to play Zelda with? I'm confused. How do you use that wiimote to play Zelda? __________________

11-21-2006, 12:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
Karkianman101 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing Age: 20 Posts: 1,546	Re: Wii - first impressions? The Wii comes with a wiimote and a nunchuck (the little thing with the thumbstick and two triggers). The wiimote itself has an A button on top, a B trigger on bottom, a D pad, a -, +, and home button, and 1 and 2 buttons. With the nunchuck, you move link with the thumbstick, target with the z trigger, and look around in 1st person with the c button. With the wiimote, you talk to your helper (Midna) with the up d-pad, you assign items to B with the other three, you use the item with the B button, the A button is context sensitive (open doors and such), you access inventory with the -, you access equiptment/options/saves with the +, the 1 puts the map up, and the 2 toggles the minimap. Fighting: you get your sword out by shaking the wiimote. Shaking it different ways and while moving different directions and when locked on vs not locked on produces different swings. A is still the power strike, and for the spin attack you shake the nunchuck side to side. The game also has seven 'hidden' attacks that you can learn, such as a killing blow for stunned opponents (power strike a stunned opponent), or a shield blow which makes enemies recoil (flicking the nunchuck forward). It may sound a little weird, but now that I'm used to it it works even better than the old control scheme. Not once in TP have I made a single mistake because of shoddy controls, which isn't the case with the other two 3d zeldas. However, should you be wary of this set-up, I'm fairly sure that plugging a gamecube controller into the top might work.

11-21-2006, 12:23 PM	#23 (permalink)
RandomGuy Join Date: May 2003 Location: K-W, Ont. Age: 27 Posts: 1,740	Re: Wii - first impressions? any word if smash brothers will have online multi-player?

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SmokingTarpan Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,471	Re: Wii - first impressions? Just make sure that you hold onto your controller! http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2183346 That's one way to kill a 60-inch TV. __________________ [squadl] "I am the prettiest african-american, vietnamese..cong..person." -SugarNCamo

11-21-2006, 01:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
Zephyr Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 20 Posts: 1,662	Re: Wii - first impressions? Don't feel bad about getting a Wii... http://nexgenwars.com/ See? They're set to seize 1/7th of the gaming market in 2 more days. -Zephyr __________________ You were once like the newbie who needed a hand from above and TacticalGamer gave you it. You owe the newbie who comes after you that same outstretched hand from above on your honor as a Tactical Gamer. Tactics at TG come from trust and friendship, not meticulous detail and rigid discipline. Everyone should be assumed mature until proven otherwise. We are no clan. We are not a single game. We are mature, intelligent, and cooperative individuals. We are TacticalGamer, a community above and beyond its name.

11-21-2006, 02:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
Gambit7 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywood, FL Age: 32 Posts: 2,193	Re: Wii - first impressions? Anyone else besides me think the folks at Xbox have something else up their sleeve to pwn the market even more? Now there's XNA of course, but I have the feeling there's gonna be more. And my feeling leans towards some kind of special interface that may perhaps go further then the Wii's. Perhaps some kind of VR interface, i dunno. It's really a shame u cant have Wii's functionality with the power and codeability of the Xbox __________________

11-21-2006, 08:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
ThePenguineer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 809	Re: Wii - first impressions? Hehe. My friends are really excited about it and a few are going to come over to my house later this week to try it out. All I have is Wii sports and Zelda right now, but that should be enough to let them try it out to see if they want to get one too. It's gonna be fun comparing the reactions of 20 somethings to the console to that of a 9 year-old girl's. __________________ \|TG-Irr\| ThePenguineer ::: \|TG-Irr\| Pengie the Noob TG-Irregulars Communications Officer Want to be more involved in TG? Think Irregulars!

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