Template testing

**Apophis** · 03-22-2006, 12:27 PM

As you may or may not have already noticed, I'm testing a new template with the WoW forums. More on this will be unveiled VERY shortly, but this template will remain in place until I have completed my testing. Expect to see it in this form for at least the next 10-12 hours.

Mateo · 03-22-2006, 12:34 PM

OMG. I can't decide if I like it or not. I mean, it's appropriate, but it's also ugly.

Phantom · 03-22-2006, 12:57 PM

Thanks for getting this up, not sure if I like it yet or not but it is appropriate like Mateo said.

**Apophis** · 03-22-2006, 01:00 PM

Personally, I could take it or leave it. But we'll have some discussions tonight in the WoW meeting and figure out what our options are and what direction we should go.

Phantom · 03-22-2006, 01:05 PM

Yeah it definitely gives it a better feel for the WoW people, but being a Web Design major I am real picky about my designs.

**beep** · 03-22-2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

OMG. I can't decide if I like it or not. I mean, it's appropriate, but it's also ugly.

ROFL...you're just used to wearing camo contact lenses, Mateo!!! I could live with almost any color scheme but pink...

What Apo has done currently is at least thematically similar to Blizz's WoW scheme.

**Wyzcrak** · 03-22-2006, 01:15 PM

I love the creativity. I love the idea.

I could imagine some pretty ugly stuff could come out of this effort, but I happen to have good first impressions for what I see now.

Again... love the idea. Really sets the mood.

Apophis, how many hours of effort, across all of the resources involved in what we see now, has been required to create what we see so far? I'm curious to know what it takes to do this to a specific forum.

Mateo · 03-22-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

I love the creativity. I love the idea.

I could imagine some pretty ugly stuff could come out of this effort, but I happen to have good first impressions for what I see now.

Again... love the idea. Really sets the mood.

Apophis, how many hours of effort, across all of the resources involved in what we see now, has been required to create what we see so far? I'm curious to know what it takes to do this to a specific forum.

What are you thinking about something for NS?

Should be fairly straightforward, I should think.

If WoW then template =wowtemplate.css or something.

**Wyzcrak** · 03-22-2006, 01:21 PM

Well, that question comes from both the GO and the developer in me. Yeah, something like this would be no less fun for the NS forum than it is for the WoW (or any other game) forum here, but I'd also like to know from a developer standpoint.

Sure, but you've got to create the graphics, plan the design, etc. It's more than specifying a CSS stylesheet. So, I'm just wondering how long all of this takes, overall.

Apophis, if there's a technical side of this that you think I'm overlooking, I'd love to hear about that, too.

Mateo · 03-22-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beep

ROFL...you're just used to wearing camo contact lenses, Mateo!!! I could live with almost any color scheme but pink...

What Apo has done currently is at least thematically similar to Blizz's WoW scheme.

No, I just like my TACTICAL GAMER gaming activities to look like part of the community, not Tactical only in name.

Minority of 1, of course.

Sunderland · 03-22-2006, 01:36 PM

hot stuff apo...this will really help for our recruitment!

**Jest** · 03-22-2006, 02:10 PM

I think the new template is a step in the right direction. I like it better than the old one.

**Apophis** · 03-22-2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

I love the creativity. I love the idea.

I could imagine some pretty ugly stuff could come out of this effort, but I happen to have good first impressions for what I see now.

Again... love the idea. Really sets the mood.

Apophis, how many hours of effort, across all of the resources involved in what we see now, has been required to create what we see so far? I'm curious to know what it takes to do this to a specific forum.

You're looking at about 100-120 hours of work between the tweaking of the template to work with the site, the custom CMS integration (which I have not unveiled yet), the template integration and some custom 301 redirects to make the thing Google friendly.

The biggest problem is that it now takes 200% longer to do any upgrades to the site when new versions of vBulletin are released. I need to do all the template modifications for both templates rather than just one. So rather than it taking me 4-6 hours to complete an upgrade, I will be looking at 8-12 hours.

Mateo · 03-22-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apophis

You're looking at about 100-120 hours of work between the tweaking of the template to work with the site, the custom CMS integration (which I have not unveiled yet), the template integration and some custom 301 redirects to make the thing Google friendly.

The biggest problem is that it now takes 200% longer to do any upgrades to the site when new versions of vBulletin are released. I need to do all the template modifications for both templates rather than just one. So rather than it taking me 4-6 hours to complete an upgrade, I will be looking at 8-12 hours.

That is not good news. Given the size of the community and the general complexity of it, anything that adds complexity cannot be good.

Apophis, can't you have ideas that don't create a ton more work for yourself?

**Tonk** · 03-22-2006, 02:58 PM

hottness, i miss the diff-color stickies tho, i thought they were all removed

03-22-2006, 12:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,993	Template testing As you may or may not have already noticed, I'm testing a new template with the WoW forums. More on this will be unveiled VERY shortly, but this template will remain in place until I have completed my testing. Expect to see it in this form for at least the next 10-12 hours. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

03-22-2006, 12:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: Template testing OMG. I can't decide if I like it or not. I mean, it's appropriate, but it's also ugly.

03-22-2006, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,993	Re: Template testing Personally, I could take it or leave it. But we'll have some discussions tonight in the WoW meeting and figure out what our options are and what direction we should go. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

03-22-2006, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: Template testing I love the creativity. I love the idea. I could imagine some pretty ugly stuff could come out of this effort, but I happen to have good first impressions for what I see now. Again... love the idea. Really sets the mood. Apophis, how many hours of effort, across all of the resources involved in what we see now, has been required to create what we see so far? I'm curious to know what it takes to do this to a specific forum. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-22-2006, 01:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: Template testing Well, that question comes from both the GO and the developer in me. Yeah, something like this would be no less fun for the NS forum than it is for the WoW (or any other game) forum here, but I'd also like to know from a developer standpoint. Sure, but you've got to create the graphics, plan the design, etc. It's more than specifying a CSS stylesheet. So, I'm just wondering how long all of this takes, overall. Apophis, if there's a technical side of this that you think I'm overlooking, I'd love to hear about that, too. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-22-2006, 01:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sunderland Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 311	Re: Template testing hot stuff apo...this will really help for our recruitment! __________________ -Hold onto the pin, throw the other part

03-22-2006, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jest Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 370	Re: Template testing I think the new template is a step in the right direction. I like it better than the old one.

03-22-2006, 02:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
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