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Discussion: World of Warcraft / World of Warcraft - General Discussion - BoE DKP issue - Originally Posted by candrice Im in the guild but that was a waste to de
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Quote Originally Posted by candrice
    Im in the guild but that was a waste to de a boe that we couldve taken it and sold it on ah and then bought 5 to 6 nexus crystals from the sale...Or save it for a guildie who needed it...We should NEVER de a Boe item...
    Agreed. Epic BOE's bring huge prices on the AH.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Quote Originally Posted by beep
    I love it that you and Alava continue to hang around and participate in our forums, even though it's really ironic that you are responding to something (DKP) that's truly a guild-only phenomenon.

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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Wow!.....i dont know what else to say.. oops maybe, lol
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    I know it's a guild business and don't mean to intrude. But i still love many of the TG people and the community, and i'm just voicing my experience with end game to help make TG better as a whole and hopefully pass my knowledge of Dkp and End game on to others.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Alava
    I know it's a guild business and don't mean to intrude. But i still love many of the TG people and the community, and i'm just voicing my experience with end game to help make TG better as a whole and hopefully pass my knowledge of Dkp and End game on to others.
    Thanks Alava! You've always been generous in your offers to help with advice.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    I totally agree with Beep.. I know many would spend their DKP so that they could sell the item and then be able to buy as many Nexus Crystals they would need for their high end enchants. If no one is willing to spend their DKP for the item is when it gets kinda sticky.. and thats where Anahs other two options come into play..

    Again its a great problem to have.. Most of the locks that raid with us have their felheart belt and hence the problem.. I have talked to a couple of friends that have seen this in their guilds and they DE BoP items without blinking :-) and then there is a DKP price for the Nexus Crystal and if no one wants it is sent to the guild bank.
    BoE items will be offered up for bid then if no one is willing to spend DKP it will go to the guild bank for the Officers to decide how to distribute.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Ashen, I don't know if you understood, or maybe I'm just tired? I diddn't suggest two options. I don't agree with them, I won't have sinkholes on the DKP Site. If anything, the raid should be giving up DKP to have something DE'd.

    I think we're starting to split the topic into two topics. What to do with BOE Epics, and what to do with DKP on them when nobody wants them.

    Had I known they were going to DE it, I'd have offered to buy it myself. I could definately use the cash it'd bring in.

    Unfortunately, unless it gets opened up to the 'free for all' option, it's never going to give the raid DKP for it.


    Also, keep in mind, two guilds, one item. Hard to 'bank it' on a whim.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    BoE's should not be DE'd for us ever, there is no reason. If we want the nexus crystals that badly we can put the item in the AH, sell it, and buy stacks of nexus crystals. But until EVERYBODY that is a main raider has all their BoE set pieces there is no reason to sell or DE them. Put them in the guild bank so people can have a chance at getting them.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Quote Originally Posted by candrice
    Im in the guild but that was a waste to de a boe that we couldve taken it and sold it on ah and then bought 5 to 6 nexus crystals from the sale...Or save it for a guildie who needed it...We should NEVER de a Boe item...
    (In the guild too)

    I agree Ricca
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Anah
    Last night a felheart belt dropped, which is BoE, and nobody wanted it. The solution to this, as with any other epic that dropped and nobody wanted, was to DE it. I think this was a tremendous waste.

    I have some suggestions for future BoE epics. If nobody of the peferred class needs these items, why not make them available for bid to the entire raid? The 800 gold that item would have gone for in the AH would have nicely equipped somebody, just as a peice of their set armor would. Or even allowed for purchase of an epic mount. I'd use some DKP for that. Option 2 - Let the guild sell it. The 800g would buy many more nexus crystals than the 2 that were DIed from it. Or Option 3 - keep it in the guild bank for somebody not in the raid to bid on later. Some people have trouble making our raid times, but may want epic gear for those occasions when they can make it.

    Just some Ideas.

    Ok... let me look at this a little harder than..

    Option 1 is the preferred option as I see it, but what happens if no one is willing to spend the DKP? Then we go to option 2 and/or 3?
    Option 2 is not an option if your splitting between guilds and still this does not distribute DKP
    Option 3 is great again if not splitting between two guilds... and still no DKP!!

    I understand that you werent offering these options together but we will have to consider the "What if" scenarios and thats where the scenario probably should be a combination.. Scenario 1 is first option then if that doesnt work then you would move to plan 2 or 3

    **also realized it was Anah that posted options.. not Vinz :-) I am the one thats tired Sorry**
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    I think each guild represented in the raid should have a chance to get the item for their bank (only if a person in the raid, in that guild, has DKP points). If there are 3 different guilds in the raid (let's say TG, VB, and pants pirates), and also say there are 15 VB, 23 TG, and 2 PP....then /roll 40 with 1-2 going to PP bank, 3-18 going to VB bank and 19-40 going to TG bank. what the individual banks do with the item is up to them.


    EDIT FOR DKP VALUE:

    As for DKP for these items, obviously, it wouldn't zero out if it went to a bank...So you can't give DKP for it. And as far as OUR guild bank is involved, you shouldn't have to spend DKP if you NEED it (since it didn't GIVE anyone DKP when it dropped). It should go to whoever needs it. IF nobody needs it, sell it.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    I want to be sure to declare that any/all are always welcome to post in these forums.

    It was pointed out to me that my earlier posts in this thread in response to Kossi and Alava might be interpreted as carrying a subtext of "you shouldn't post if you're not a guildie".

    That was not my intention. If I conveyed anything other than kindly bemusement then I hereby apologize to both Kossi and Alava. Both are friends of the guild and former running buddies whose opinions I value. They have our best interests at heart even if they aren't on the roster.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    I didn't take it that way at all beep...i was just making sure if some people felt like i was stepping on toes that i was sorry for that. I mean if you guys really hated me and didn't want me to post here then i would be banned : P. Hope you guys continue to tear up MC and wtfpwnbbq Rag soon.
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    Re: BoE DKP issue

    OK, in response to some of the responses - Here is a major problem. The item was never opened to the entire raid to bid. No warlocks wanted it, so it was DEed. I think we should have been able to bid on it regardless of class once the warlocks passed on it.

    Another option. Hold the item in the bank (doesn't matter which) for guildies to bid on. A post in the forums of all participating guilds, then when a winner is determined (rolloff if needed) that person is added to the raid, spends the dkp and the balance is distributed between the raiders who were there and that new person as a seperate instance. That balances the books and allows us to get geared even if you missed a raid. Preference still going first to the class that can use it.

    There may not be an easy way to deal with this, but we need to work it out now, before another BoE drops and stops our raid for 30minutes while we decide on the spot.
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    Beep is my home-boy >kiss<
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