Originally Posted by Mateo

Ok, this is not a response to Luna.

Help me out here: we had epics in the bank that did not come from a raid, or came from a raid and were passed on-doesn't that mean that the DKP for those items is ZERO?

Now, assigning relative DKP to items seems fair, but that is hardly a giveaway then, is it? If you want to do something nice for the guild, then DKP should not be involved at all, unless it's used as a measurement for activity.

Even then, we have another problem: DKP would be assigned based on activity, which would look an awful lot like cronyism.

I don't have a solution, but for my officer vote, I'm leaning towards KISS.

We have epics that were obtained in trade with another end-game guild. We had rare materials that they wanted so a trade was negotiated involving epics and gold.

Now, as to giving out the epics...the usual way that epics are obtained is through participation in a raid. Epics that drop are "bought" with DKP. The person getting the item would "pay" DKP and everyone else goes up a proportionate share.

If we give out epic loot with no dkp implications, then everyone else who had to pay DKP for the equivalent item is not being treated fairly (IMO). If the person IS charged DKP, then we have a question of who exactly should receive the positive, off-setting DKP. KISS in this case suggests to me that we handle it exactly like we would in a raid setting...charge the receiving person and credit those who were in the raid WHEN THE MATERIAL THAT WAS TRADED dropped.

As to the possibility of "cronyism"...I take issue with that sort of characterization. DKP IS assigned based on activity. The ONLY way to earn DKP is through activity in our 40 man raids. Total earned DKP is the best single measure of on-going regular participation in our raids. If we want to have handouts of epic loot, I think KISS means to give it those who need it and who have been the biggest contributors to our end-game raiding success.