WOW -- This is huge for KTM users

Arkamis · 08-22-2006, 04:26 PM

From the patch notes:

Quote:

- Threat Reduction Effects
This system has been redesigned to eliminate inconsistency in how
the effects work. Previously, some were additive (for example: 30%
reduction + 20% reduction = 50% reduction) while others were
multiplicative (30% reduction and 20% reduction made 44% reduction,
from 0.7*0.8). They are now all multiplicative. This also prevents
unpredictable behavior when the total reduction percentage was equal
to or greater than 100%. Please note that in almost all cases, when
stacking multiple threat reduction effects you will experience less
threat reduction than previously.

That means that KTM is going to be off for a while while they rescale the effects of certain talents, etc.

And, fwiw, this is why I've been an advocate AGAINST KTM for simple fights. We'll need it for certain fights, however, NOTHING beats intuition.

**Alava** · 08-22-2006, 09:53 PM

Actually Arkamis.....there is already a KTM to take into account the patch changes...threat meter FTW : D

**Tonk** · 08-24-2006, 01:18 AM

KLHThreatMeter » World of Warcraft Addons and UI Mods

1.11 / 1.12 Compatible. R17 will work on the 1.11 servers, and also the PTR and 1.12 when it comes up. In particular, several threat modifiers are additive in 1.11 and multiplicative in 1.12.

--> Channelless communication. When running on 0.12 or the PTR, the mod will use the new hidden Addons channel for communication. This means CTRA / oRA is no longer a requirement, and there will be no more problems with people not being in the wrong channel. The mod will now work automatically in a 5-man party too.

**Alava** · 08-24-2006, 04:44 PM

You still need CTRA for KTM to work and you need the latest version of both for them to communicate with each other.

**Tonk** · 08-24-2006, 08:28 PM

no u dont.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cursed-gaming

Dependencies:

As of Patch 1.12, KLHThreatMeter no longer requires any dependencies.

**Alava** · 08-25-2006, 02:20 AM

Chair...i use them and it runs off the same engine that the new CTraid does

**Tonk** · 08-26-2006, 02:52 AM

alava.... as of patch 1.12 KTM no longer requires CTRA or any other addon ( WOW now has a hidden UI/addon channel built in)

08-22-2006, 09:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Alava Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL (where ever second can be a new season) Age: 28 Posts: 480	Re: WOW -- This is huge for KTM users Actually Arkamis.....there is already a KTM to take into account the patch changes...threat meter FTW : D __________________ Thunderhorn: 70 Night Elf Priest-Lunaar(holy) 70 Human Mage-Alava(Fire) 70 Night Elf Hunter-Insai(Beast Master) 70 Dwarf Paladin-Ginoldor(Protection) 70 Human Warrior-Revenged(Protection) 70 Draenei Shaman-Tianora(Elemental) 70 Draenei Shaman-Fayrel(Restoration) Gilneas: 50 Undead Priest-Eikyl(Shadow)

08-24-2006, 01:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 3,026	Re: WOW -- This is huge for KTM users KLHThreatMeter » World of Warcraft Addons and UI Mods 1.11 / 1.12 Compatible. R17 will work on the 1.11 servers, and also the PTR and 1.12 when it comes up. In particular, several threat modifiers are additive in 1.11 and multiplicative in 1.12. --> Channelless communication. When running on 0.12 or the PTR, the mod will use the new hidden Addons channel for communication. This means CTRA / oRA is no longer a requirement, and there will be no more problems with people not being in the wrong channel. The mod will now work automatically in a 5-man party too. __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

08-24-2006, 04:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Alava Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL (where ever second can be a new season) Age: 28 Posts: 480	Re: WOW -- This is huge for KTM users You still need CTRA for KTM to work and you need the latest version of both for them to communicate with each other. __________________ Thunderhorn: 70 Night Elf Priest-Lunaar(holy) 70 Human Mage-Alava(Fire) 70 Night Elf Hunter-Insai(Beast Master) 70 Dwarf Paladin-Ginoldor(Protection) 70 Human Warrior-Revenged(Protection) 70 Draenei Shaman-Tianora(Elemental) 70 Draenei Shaman-Fayrel(Restoration) Gilneas: 50 Undead Priest-Eikyl(Shadow)

08-25-2006, 02:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Alava Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL (where ever second can be a new season) Age: 28 Posts: 480	Re: WOW -- This is huge for KTM users Chair...i use them and it runs off the same engine that the new CTraid does __________________ Thunderhorn: 70 Night Elf Priest-Lunaar(holy) 70 Human Mage-Alava(Fire) 70 Night Elf Hunter-Insai(Beast Master) 70 Dwarf Paladin-Ginoldor(Protection) 70 Human Warrior-Revenged(Protection) 70 Draenei Shaman-Tianora(Elemental) 70 Draenei Shaman-Fayrel(Restoration) Gilneas: 50 Undead Priest-Eikyl(Shadow)

08-26-2006, 02:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 3,026	Re: WOW -- This is huge for KTM users alava.... as of patch 1.12 KTM no longer requires CTRA or any other addon ( WOW now has a hidden UI/addon channel built in) __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

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