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Discussion: World of Warcraft / World of Warcraft - General Discussion - BwL attempts... - Originally Posted by Kedera What if instead of starting prime-time Sunday night the raid was
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kedera View Post
    What if instead of starting prime-time Sunday night the raid was moved up to say 4:30 or 5:00? That would give a good 4 - 6 hours for either instance before people had to start logging off to meet work/school commitments on Monday.
    Sunday is a family day for a lot of regulars, so starting that early wouldn't work. Not to mention the fact that dinner-time falls right around then or shortly after. I'd say that anywhere from 430pm to 630pm is a dead zone for raiding on any day.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

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    Re: BwL attempts...

    I will never ever be available before 7pm Sunday...or Saturday...not if I want to be able to play this game in the future...
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    As suggested before (now with a raid time that works for everyone):

    FRI - BwL ---> Starts at 7pm (st) sharp until we can’t take no more;

    Sat - BwL ---> Starts at 7pm (st) sharp until we can’t take no more;

    Sun - MC full clear + BwL clearing and/or boss attempts according to our progress.

    Monday -----> BwL attempts.


    IF YOU CAN`T RAID ON MONDAYS... REMEMBER:


    On Tuesday BwL is reset, SO, it doesn’t matter if we raided on Monday because you will not loose anything, since we will all be able to raid together on FRI/SAT/SUN...

    The time doesn’t matter, should be decide by our officers, the schedule proposed is what I’d like to propose in this thread.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacredlord View Post
    FRI - BwL ---> Starts at 7pm (st) sharp until we can’t take no more;

    Sat - BwL ---> Starts at 7pm (st) sharp until we can’t take no more;

    Sun - MC full clear + BwL clearing and/or boss attempts according to our progress.
    Personally I think you're asking alot on a Sunday night of folks who have to work Monday. I don't see how you can fit all that into a Sunday night without it running very late. I can understand the need to want to progress through BWL, but this seems like a very aggressive schedule, and I just don't see enough people being able to stay around Sunday after a full MC clear to go play in BWL.

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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Honestly, I think if youmove MC to Sunday, there will be a sharp decline in attendance. We have to keep gearing people. BWL on Friday and Sunday should be enough. Like you all have already stated, after Vael, it's a cakewalk.

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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Keep in mind we used to run our second night of MC on Sundays, and they would often go to midnight server time. Not that this was the ideal situation, but now that we're able to clear in fewer than four hours, if we start at 7 or 7:30, we can definitely be done at a reasonable hour.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    I have no problem running MC on Sundays - it's running MC and then heading to BWL that I see as being a bit optimistic for a Sunday night.

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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by msheahen View Post
    Keep in mind we used to run our second night of MC on Sundays, and they would often go to midnight server time. Not that this was the ideal situation, but now that we're able to clear in fewer than four hours, if we start at 7 or 7:30, we can definitely be done at a reasonable hour.
    Then let's not move it until we CAN clear it in under 4 hours. AS it stands right now, it will be 11:30 or midnight when we complete it. Mondays are bad enough at work...Let's not add lack of sleep to it too.

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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kedera View Post
    I have no problem running MC on Sundays - it's running MC and then heading to BWL that I see as being a bit optimistic for a Sunday night.
    Yea that does seem like a little much at this point. Two nights of BWL (preferably on Fri/Sat) seem good to me. I really think we should considering shifting around MC on the schedule week to week. Some weeks make it the Saturday instance, some weeks the Friday, and some weeks the Sunday. Personally I would like to see us do it during the week sometimes and free up a day on the weekend.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Altor, as I said, we *can* clear MC in under four hours. If we move with a purpose and stay free of wipes (two things that we're entirely capable of doing), we can clear it in three and a half hours. So again, if we started at 7 or 7:30, we could be done by 11 at the latest. Maybe that's too late for some, but judging from the attendance we've had in the past it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Heh...I'll go the other extreme...

    I'd welcome weekends with only TWO nights of scheduled raiding. I could actually have an evening date with my wife without being antsy about missing a guild raid!!

    Now I know what you're thinking ("Beep, you can do that anyway!"). I know the logic. BUT...(there's always a "but" )...I take the role of MT seriously enough that I feel I ought to be on our big raids whenever possible. And it's not based on a lack of confidence in our other good warriors/tanks who can handle the job. And, if we're gonna take down new bosses and learn new fights, I want to be there!

    Y'know, I love the motivation that prompts this sort of thread, a desire to do more with your guildmates and enthusiasm for the game. I also know that we are always too early/late, frequent/infrequent, short/long, serious/casual, talkative/silent for someone. Gotta love the mix!!
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by msheahen View Post
    Altor, as I said, we *can* clear MC in under four hours. If we move with a purpose and stay free of wipes (two things that we're entirely capable of doing), we can clear it in three and a half hours. So again, if we started at 7 or 7:30, we could be done by 11 at the latest. Maybe that's too late for some, but judging from the attendance we've had in the past it shouldn't be a problem at all.
    Our single biggest timesink in MC always was and continues to be the distribution of loot. Why after dozens of clears it takes us 10 minutes to hand out 3 items simply baffles me. At this point this isn't new to anyone so why Shal has to ask 3 times who wants X items just puzzles me.

    By my count there are 9 bosses in MC. At 10 minutes per that's NINETY FREAKING MINUTES of standing around looking at each other while waiting to get your goodies or go to the next mob. I propose that once everyone is up we have a 30 second timer for any item, if no bids are placed within that 30 second period then the item is DE'd.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Quote Originally Posted by TG_Bear View Post
    Our single biggest timesink in MC always was and continues to be the distribution of loot. Why after dozens of clears it takes us 10 minutes to hand out 3 items simply baffles me. At this point this isn't new to anyone so why Shal has to ask 3 times who wants X items just puzzles me.

    By my count there are 9 bosses in MC. At 10 minutes per that's NINETY FREAKING MINUTES of standing around looking at each other while waiting to get your goodies or go to the next mob. I propose that once everyone is up we have a 30 second timer for any item, if no bids are placed within that 30 second period then the item is DE'd.
    We all know what set pieces drop - each class should have it resolved that if X drops who's going to take it before the boss. For the non-set piece items I realize it may take a bit longer as you open it up to other classes (rogues have priority -- no rogues want, then open it up to warriors and hunters and pallys, etc.). Either way I agree with Bear that this can be sped up.
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    Re: BwL attempts...

    Here is idea on loot, the people not rolling on said loot can begin to clear the next set of mobs. While those that are rolling hang back till winner is declared. Another good idea, is rebuff while looting is going on, seems like a good time to rebuff. You might already do these things, I am just throwing my 2 cents in there, things I have seen to help save time. Of course this is regrads to MC, which is on farm status.
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