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  • Bots to help seed server?

    Thought I'd throw on yet another task, but is it possible for players to add bots to the server when seeding to help fill it quicker? Been playing around with this mod and its got a slick implementation for adding bots directly from the menu:

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=163433611

    Even just using the console, you can use something like "addbot 2 5" (add 5 bots to team 2 aliens) etc...

    It also calculates your accuracy and such and aliens have full upgrades, might be fun with everybody on marines fighting waves of skulks. It'd be automatically running on an empty server for people to add bots, up until a certain playercount. Thoughts?
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    Re: Bots to help seed server?

    Sounds like more fun than combat!
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    • #3
      Re: Bots to help seed server?

      I don't really know.. some people get annoyed when joining a server of bots, as it feels like they were deceived somehow into thinking it was an active/full server.

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      • #4
        Re: Bots to help seed server?

        Originally posted by DarkScythe View Post
        I don't really know.. some people get annoyed when joining a server of bots, as it feels like they were deceived somehow into thinking it was an active/full server.
        Maybe it can be advertised as such when they join? A welcome screen that simply says: Bots are for seeding and feeding; get in on the action until a real game starts!! ;)
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        • #5
          Re: Bots to help seed server?

          If I remember correctly, people in a "guardian" role could add bots to the old NS1 server, and it worked very well. It was much easier to waste time with a bunch of bots than it was just bouncing around the RR.

          I think it's a great idea if we can find an appropriate mod and get it working correctly.

          Plus, at 2 PM (Mountain Time) when my kids go down for a nap and I click on NS2 and see 2 of 23 in our server, I don't want to waste my 2 hours of nap time trying to seed a server when I know it'll be full when the kids go to bed later. I figure a lot of people will initially respond the same way I will and join up in a bot match with 16 of 23. With that being said, I don't think we should have bots alone in an empty server.

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          • #6
            Re: Bots to help seed server?

            Just acknowledging this thread. Lots of irons in the fire atm, but I like the spirit of this idea, and I suspect I can implement in a way that limits the "wtf bots" reaction.

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            • #7
              Re: Bots to help seed server?

              So... last stand with bot only aliens? Can't wait! :D
              aka Roland tHTG

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              • #8
                Re: Bots to help seed server?

                The mod I listed lets you add bots to a certain team without regard to team size limitations. So you can have a few marines fighting 8 aliens if you wanted. It doesn't work with 253 yet, really all that's needed is an ability to add bots only to a certain team which I don't think you can do with NS2 vanilla.
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                • #9
                  Re: Bots to help seed server?

                  This would be pretty nice, actually. One of the only times I play is in the mornings (US Central) and it's pretty dead, but some of the most fun I ever had in NS1 was Human Marines vs Bot Aliens. Like a 4v12 and it was loads of fun. I could see that sort of good time in the mornings with those bots.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bots to help seed server?

                    I'd be up for trying this.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bots to help seed server?

                      Just an update, it is not necessary to have a mod to add bots to a certain team. The commands are already in the vanilla game:

                      addbot 3 1 (adds 3 bots to team 1 - marines)
                      addbot 8 2 (adds 8 bots to team 2 - aliens)

                      ^ Commands SMs? could use in console to add bots.

                      removebot 3 1 (removes 3 bots from marines)
                      removebot 8 2 (removes 8 bots from aliens)

                      Map change removes all bots automatically.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bots to help seed server?

                        sh_bots is now available to Guardians and Temp Admins on the server. Play with up to 25 stock NS2 bots until 10 humans are present (untested -- can you confirm?: the bots should disappear at the teamjoin of the 10th human).

                        Example usages:

                        sh_bots 1
                        sh_bots 15

                        sh_bots -1
                        sh_bots -25

                        When bots are present, they're forced to Aliens while humans are forced to Marines.

                        I'd love to use smarter bots in the future, if I can find and integrate them.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bots to help seed server?

                          This was so much fun! Seeding servers won't be an issue now, at least for me.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bots to help seed server?

                            Originally posted by Wyzcrak View Post

                            I'd love to use smarter bots in the future, if I can find and integrate them.
                            Assuming you used the default bots the bots in the mod that aeroripper linked in the OP are significantly better than the vanilla bots. They are better than many players around your average pub these days...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bots to help seed server?

                              Ah, yes. I should have mentioned that I looked into that mod, but its maintainers claim it's broken in build 254. No ETA.
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