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    Tuesday, February 10th, 2004
    O Combat respawning change: only 1/4 of the team can respawn at a time (waves last 5-11 seconds, depending on team size). This reduces Combat game length significantly, and gives much more importants to player death.

    O All new ns_hera (massive server CPU optimizations and balance changes) (thanks Merkaba!)
    O Data Core Alpha replaced with old Hera material which allows easier attack on the archive hive (no lifts)
    O Marines can now go from the marine start to the warehouse without having to weld open anything.
    O Warehouse is now connected to the holoroom via a small corridor.
    O No more vents lead into marine start.
    O Two more resource nodes added to the map. One in the fog corridor, and one in Systems Handling (where data core alpha used to be). The old node in that area has been moved into the Archiving hive.
    O Archiving a little wider now, so the upper level isn't so cramped.
    O Total entity count is now < 240
    O Walkway no longer in an ineffecient U shape.
    O Fog Corridor shortened.
    O Various little fixes and touchups.
    O Readyroom changes (shorter MS start, no egg)


    O Added "Xfire" support to the installer (optional). This is an instant messenger for gamers, and will auto-update full NS support later this week. Visit http://www.xfire.com for more information.

    O Updated hand grenade sounds (new explosion, bounce, prime, etc.)

    O Fixed bug where grenade launcher grenades death messages used hand grenade sprite

    O Sped up resupply time at armory slightly

    O Reduced mine health to 20 (so gorges can easily take them out with spit and marines can detonate them in combat with FF)

    O Purchasing mines now gets you 4 mines instead of 5

    O Hand grenades now do less damage then grenade launcher grenades (100 instead of 125)

    O Increased rate at which hives heal friendly players (from 6% per second to 15% per second)

    O Fixed bug where heal spray wasn't working for many hives

    O Removed preservation of experience when leaving the team because of abuse

    O Updated co_kestrel (thanks DevilDog!)
    O Extended existing vent near subhangar to also allow access to MS
    O Added "Hangar 7 Control" room which sits above and looks into the MS. This provides another way into the MS for a total of 2 normal, 1 accessible by all but Ohnos, and 1 vent
    O Hive slightly moved and a vent added from the ladder that goes up to the escape pod that "looks" at the hive. This serves as a perch to allow gorges to heal the hive (they can't reach it from the ground).
    O Couple of texture fixes


    O Updated ns_ayumi (thanks DrunkenMonkey!)
    O The elevator outside marine start is replaced with a ramp.
    O A new weldable just outside the "AE35" hive that open up a door to "Gorges Hideout".
    O A new ladder in "Star Child".
    O The rails are gone in "Eastern Entrance" to make the room more open, and also is the hallways that leads to that room remade.
    O The "Hamasaki" hive have gotten a new exit.
    O The hive in "Pressure Control" have been raised a little bit, so it can no longer be blocked by structures.
    O A new vent in "Pressure Control".
    O New sky.
    O New ambient sounds in all of the three hives.
    O Lots of tweaks all over the map, to make it easier and more fun to play.


    O Updated co_ulysses (thanks Blueman!)
    O Fixed clip error at the hive
    O Added co_ulysses back into the mapcycle


    O Fixed clipping problems on ns_nothing (thanks KungFuSquirrel!)

    O Updated co_rebirth (thanks IAN!)
    O A big change with this version, because I built a new level just under the marine start, trying to encourage marines to get out.
    O Increased the size of corridors just next the rebirth room, built a little vent inside the MS for skulks and lerks (I enjoy the idea they could be hidden in the ms itself) and I built a place for gorges in the Hive room to heal the hive and perhaps will it help marines too.
    O Doors in general stay open longer


    O Updated co_angst (thanks ChromeAngel!)
    O Revamped marine start
    O Other unlisted changes that were apparently favorably received by playtesters


    O Fixed incompatibility with server mod menus (bug #482).

    O Fixed cannot type text into the chat box while CTRL is pressed (bug #491)

    O New co_daimos, to help fix problem where Oni have trouble spawning sometimes (thanks Hypergrip!)

  • #2
    I'm not sure i see the point in this Xfire thing, if its for IMing, steam already has a friends program installed in it..

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    • #3
      Maybe Xfire has an uptime better than 33%. :)

      I'd recommend to anyone installing beta3 that you backup your C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\<email address>\half-life\nsp folder before you do.

      I'll be doing similar backups when I install beta3 on the server here soon (it's downloading now).

      Remember.. this is a beta...

      Wyzcrak
      Steam Community? Add me. | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup

      Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

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      • #4
        Re: Beta3 out

        Originally posted by Emanon
        Tuesday, February 10th, 2004
        O Combat respawning change: only 1/4 of the team can respawn at a time (waves last 5-11 seconds, depending on team size). This reduces Combat game length significantly, and gives much more importants to player death.
        So, uh... In those 4v4 combat games only one player can spawn, every 5 or so seconds? While I appreciate the significant game shortening effect, that will cause long wait times and incredibly easily spawncamping.

        O All new ns_hera (massive server CPU optimizations and balance changes) (thanks Merkaba!)
        Finally...

        O Sped up resupply time at armory slightly
        Good. Frankly I don't know why he took out the fast armory times that were in an earlier build.

        O Purchasing mines now gets you 4 mines instead of 5
        ??? Is this just in Classic, or have Combat mines been changed again?

        O Increased rate at which hives heal friendly players (from 6% per second to 15% per second)
        A pretty shortsighted fix to the problem. That's 10 hp per tick for skulks, which is tolerable I guess, but it's 105 HP per tick for an Onos. Personally I liked the suggestion of making it heal a base 15hp plus a 3% bonus.

        O Removed preservation of experience when leaving the team because of abuse
        UGH, you have got to be kidding me. There are much better ways to address the exploits associated with this.


        Sometimes it seems like Flayra just sort of throws ideas in there without thinking them through and sees if they work. Certainly that's what a beta test is for, but honestly...

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        • #5
          at least he is doing something, Unlike CS which really hasnt changed in 2 years.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Emanon
            at least he is doing something, Unlike CS which really hasnt changed in 2 years.
            yeah it has, its become crappier...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wyzcrak
              I'd recommend to anyone installing beta3 that you backup (or rename) your C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\<email address>\half-life\nsp folder before you do.
              Back it up. Don't rename it. The nsp folder has to be there for the beta3 install to succeed. I'll change my original post to reflect that.

              Wyzcrak
              Steam Community? Add me. | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup

              Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

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              • #8
                Re: Beta3 out

                Originally posted by Zek
                O Purchasing mines now gets you 4 mines instead of 5
                ??? Is this just in Classic, or have Combat mines been changed again?
                Surely NS. You don't (and didn't) purchase mines 5 at a time in CO.

                Wyzcrak
                Steam Community? Add me. | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup

                Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

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                • #9
                  ad-aware finds X-fire as spy ware.
                  - 52

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                  • #10
                    thats why I didnt install it..

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                    • #11
                      hAHha, thats funny. I didn't install it cause i don't think it will be of that much use

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by _Ender_
                        thats why I didnt install it..
                        Experience says that, if you're "done" installing what you "downloaded," and it asks you if you want to "install" ... "another" piece of software.... it's usually more harmful than helpful to allow it to.

                        I did not install the chat software.

                        Wyzcrak
                        Steam Community? Add me. | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup

                        Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

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                        • #13
                          Exactly Wyzcrak. If they ask you after if you want to install something else, its never good.

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                          • #14
                            Aliens still lack endgame, even when they have clear upper hand.


                            Marines either win in 10-20 mins or aliens in 40+

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                            • #15
                              so... I think I like the new ns_hera... how about everyone else...

                              god, remember when that map would lag something awful back in the day if the game went over like 15 minutes long... much better now
                              RAWGRLRLRLRRLGLRL!!!

                              Nations are like individuals: they achieve more when they plan to plant a tiny tree, and do it, than when they propose to raise an entire forest and then fall asleep in the furrows.

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