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  • should phasegate use require working observatory?

    http://www.natural-selection.org/for...howtopic=81010

    Interesting idea. I think that adding this, perhaps with some compensating balance changes, would help gameplay more than it would hurt.
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    Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

    sounds cool to me.
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    • #3
      Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

      I'd agree with this, IF the observatory was made 2-3x as strong as it currently is.
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      • #4
        Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

        This does not please me. Not being able to drop phase gates without an obs is usally killer enough (unless your marines are standing on the far obs when the attack happens, which isn't a given); not being able to USE them when an obs goes down (considering that a stiff wind could take them out) is too much.
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        • #5
          Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

          I think that would be great. Phase gates are extremely powerful right now (lets face it, its very hard to stop a surprise phase rush). This would give aliens another way to possibly counter constant phase rushing.


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          • #6
            Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

            Originally posted by polska
            Phase gates are extremely powerful right now (lets face it, its very hard to stop a surprise phase rush). This would give aliens another way to possibly counter constant phase rushing.
            I only view this as a problem against an unorganized alien team. in 4v4 and lower, theres no reason an alien team couldn't drop OCs on the way/in the way/as an early warning system to phase rushes. in 5v5 and larger, the alien team should have no problem sparing a defensive scout or two.

            Aliens are typically on the defensive at least until hive 2, and their purpose is to defend their current territory, expand to newer territory (second hive, res nodes), and to keep marine res flow down, as well as the occasional ninja-strike on marine tech. A head on assault at hive 1 or so is suicide at best, and so theres no reason for you not to be able to keep on the lookout for phase gates.

            This is, of course, in addition to the fact that an observatory loss already slows/stops the creation of any NEW phase gates. At 20 res/each, it can get pretty pricey if a marine team keeps losing their observatory.
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            • #7
              Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

              I would like to see this added . Although an obs costs 20 res, there really isnt a reason to hit it if you are attacking a base. The loss of an arms lab or upgraded armory is generally more costly.

              If the loss of an obs would mean the loss of the ability to use phase gates, this would make an observatory a more appealing target. This coudl give aliens an extra couple of seconds to attack fortified location or interrupt a marine rush (adding some variety to possible alien tactics). A competent commander will know when his obs is dieing and can have one up elsewhere in no time if needed, I don't see it changing gameplay drastically and would like to see it here.

              PS - will lerk lift be added? The lerk is underused and underrated in my opinion, and I would like another reason to use it :).


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              • #8
                Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                Originally posted by polska
                PS - will lerk lift be added? The lerk is underused and underrated in my opinion, and I would like another reason to use it .
                Possibly not officially, but we're adding the plugin to the server as soon as a functional one becomes available for beta5, I believe.
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                • #9
                  Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                  I wouldn't require obs to make PGs. I would instead let the Obs allow the commander to set the order of jumps though a PG, be able to change the routes of a PG, and in the situation of a shotty rush would allow the Comm to specify which PG marines appear at for.. x time.
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                  • #10
                    Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                    Not being able to phase back to base nor be able to be beaconed.... ouch. Worth a try if someone crafts a plugin.
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                    • #11
                      Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                      thats a nice addition to the alien team.

                      I think wyz is cracking at it.

                      The link wyz provided one of the posts mentioned that this addition will be in B6.

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                      • #12
                        Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                        I noticed that claim about it being in b6. I think that was unfounded enthusiasm for the fact that the thread had been moved, simply, into the forum where ideas are CONSIDERED, not planned, for the "next release." I haven't seen any dev comment suggesting this is going into b6.

                        I dunno.. I like this idea.. something would have to be done to buff the obs, even if it's nothing more than increasing the reliability of the "base is under attack" audio, as I've found that, if it's just me in the chair and a skulk or two chewing on the obs, I've usually enough time to hop out and drop the skulks before they drop my obs.
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                        • #13
                          Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                          depending on the skulks ofcourse :)

                          if its me chewing on it, yea im dead meat, but if its polska and enigma, chances are the comm will die :)

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                          • #14
                            Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                            Chances are that the skulks won't be Polska or Enigma. :)
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                            • #15
                              Re: should phasegate use require working observatory?

                              i like the obs.. but yeah.. it should be buffed up...

                              oh oh, the satilate should shot out big lasor beams at aliens! it does almost no damage but has INSANE knockback...


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