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    Well its coming close to the time when I graduate from high school. But Im having trouble picking what career fields to take interest into. Im lookin for fields that offer from $50,000 to six figure incomes. So if anybody has any advice as to what careers are best please post here. It does not neccessarily have to be a career where a 4 year degree is required cause these days most high paying jobs are more skill based than educational based. I like dealing with computers but I dont want a job thats to hard on the brain if you know what i mean. I also want to become a police officer since its a few notches down from the military and they have really great benefits. I also wouldnt mind joining the armed forces :)
    Last edited by Duncan; 04-02-2008, 07:25 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Good Careers!!

    Become an Horse based AI, the only carrer I can see you doing.....

    If you really do want answers, look for them!

    Don't ask people on a Video Game forum, otherwise your ansers will be the same every time.
    |TG-X|Turkish

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    • #3
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      Double Tap!
      |TG-X|Turkish

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      • #4
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        Nursing offers you 60k minimum plus a large wage increase with rising levels of certification. Anesthesiologists, for instance, make ~150k annually. Given your desire to work in the military or with computers, this doesn't seem likely, but its an option.
        I can ADS using more than a 2x without significant stutter! This was a good patch.

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        • #5
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          See now Turkish, that wasnt very nice. Twiggy asked a very appropriate question and you kinda treated it like he was way off base. The nice thing about TG is that we have people from all different kinds of career backgrounds here. I think he's a couple months from graduation and is trying to figure out what kinda future he wants.

          I'm going to make this a two parter twiggy. The first part is telling you about my career and the second is my advice to you. So here goes.

          Part I:
          I'm a nurse. Thats right, yuk it up suckwads, I'm a male nurse. No, I'm not gay (not that I have anything against people who prefer that lifestyle, but it's usually the first assumption about men in nursing) and no I didnt get into nursing because I couldnt hack medical school. Quite the opposite. Most nurses I know are as skilled as many doctors, several are much much more so.

          Nursing is a tough field. Your school is a combination of bookwork and hands-on experience. When I was an undergrad, I had to go to class 5 days a week and go to clinical (actual work at a hospital) 2 days a week. It's a very rigorous schedule and the material is hard. At most schools nursing is considered a 4+ degree, meaning that it requires more credits than the average undergrad degree to graduate and as such, many people take more than 4 years to complete it. It's basically a combination of pre-med and medical school all in 4 years, while working at the hospital and learning to do your job. Oh yeah, and for states that have general education requirements (such as english, foreign language, math, history, etc), which is most (if not all) states, you get to do those too. Like I said, its tough. Most degrees run between 120-135 credits to graduate. Nursing programs typically run between 145-160.

          The job isnt a cakewalk either. You're a grunt. You do ALL the work and get none of the credit. You are responsible for doing all manner of things like placing IVs, starting central lines, catheterization, cleaning bedpans, giving bedbaths, stitches, cleaning wounds, changing dressings, etc etc. At the same time, you have to know your medications, be able to calculate dosages in your head, and depending on what department you work in, be able to specialize in dealing with whatever emergencies or trauma may go on there. You're also responsible for actually having to care and interact with the patients. Nurses are the human contact bridge between doctors and patients. Doctors spend an average of 48 seconds dealing with a patient each time they come in the room. Nurses spend an average of 9-11 minutes. Doctors treat you like ragdolls and patients either love you or absolutely hate you. You get to be the sponge for families. When the doctor isnt available to explain things, you're the person who gets to explain it all. Nurses are medical machines, I kid you not.

          Personally, I work in the ICU, PICU, ER, Oncology, and Med/Surg wards, but I also pull the rare shift in maternity, psych and neuro wards. On top of my RN, I also have my alphabet soup certifications (ACLS, PALS, BLS, TNCC, PHTLS, EMT). I work on average 48 hours a week in four 12 hour shifts. Sometimes it gets boring if people arent out attempting to kill themselves that day, and sometimes you dont get to stop moving for 12 hours straight. The job requires commitment. Its not something that you can just pick up and do. However, if you're a good hearted person, good with people, not squeamish around any type of bodily fluids (and I mean ANY type) and have an ironclad work effort, theres no job more rewarding on earth. I've saved lives, I've delivered babies, I've comforted the dying, I've delivered the good news and the bad news. I wouldnt change a thing. I'm currently in school for my Doctorate of Nursing Practice, which will qualify me to do everything a doctor does (i.e. diagnose people, even though the doctorate just makes it official...i can do it anyway, just not technically "allowed" to) and at the same time perform the duties of a nurse. Think of me as being a "full service doctor": I diagnose you, treat you and spend time with you.

          So what about the pay and perks? Ah, the meat of the issue. I'm a salary nurse. I make $92,480 a year by contract with overtime for anything over 48 hours a week. My pay rate for overtime is approximately 75 bucks an hour. I actually dont make that much in comparison to a lot of markets that are available. I have friends working at hospitals in Colorado and Hawaii who make more hourly than I do on salary (in the range of 110k/year+). You can be a salary nurse or a per-diem nurse. My next job will most likely be per-diem so I can pick my own schedule at my leisure. It's not at all unusual to see per-diem nurses who make $50+ per hour. Do the math on that for a 48 hour week x 52 weeks a year. The pay is nice. Oh yeah, did I mention I have a 3 day weekend every week? It's awesome. Healthcare is kinda self explanatory, seeing as you DO work in a hospital. Also, you can be a nurse ANYWHERE in the world. Nurses are in huge demand everywhere. Some places pay better, some pay worse. It entirely depends on the market youre in and your willingness to move if you want better money.

          The downside: it takes a toll on you emotionally. Every day. I have seen some of the most horrible things imaginable. I have seen children come in beaten and broken and in comas. I have seen people come in literally in several different pieces. I have had to watch people die. I've seen people kill themselves. I've been yelled at, punched, kicked, berated, belittled, peed on, and puked on. You have to be able to handle all that. A lot of people cant. Is it worth it? Absolutely. Is it easy to cope with? Sometimes.

          Part II:
          Go to college man. Really. And dont base your career decision on what other people tell you. Learn for yourself. Go to school as an undeclared major, take your general education courses, learn about every career you can and then go after one you like tooth and nail. But dont base it on money. Basing your career goal on making money is the most surefire way that anyone ever thought of to make your life absolutely miserable. Sure, you may be making 500k a year, but if you want to kill yourself because you hate your job so much, is it worth it? I'd much rather work a job I adore for a pittance than a job I hate for a fortune. And dont let yourself be deluded into thinking that ANY career has more emphasis on skill than education. Ask any construction foreman, ask any professional mechanic, ask anyone in any job anywhere and they'll tell you that they had to learn everything they know. Theres no such thing as natural skill when it comes to professional jobs. You may have aptitude for it, but skill is far different. Most "trade jobs" require years and years and years of experience (read: learning) in a field before you're going to be making good money. A college degree is simply a tool to accelerate that learning curve and put you into a better position at the bargaining table.

          Conclusion:
          Obviously you're going to do what you want. Since you've been here you've voiced your wanting to go in several different branches of the armed services, the police, college, pyramid schemes, etc. This is perfectly normal for someone your age, albeit your approach is a bit spastic. Your best bet is to take a step back and look at the short term as well as the long term. Sure, you'd love to be rich and have a huge house and 20 cars, but is that really feasible without making yourself crazy working a job you hate? Think long and hard before you make any concrete decisions and make DAMN SURE its what you really want to do and that its something you can live with for a very long time. Life doesnt get any easier after high school, it gets infinitely harder and you have to prepare yourself to deal with that in the long haul and the short run.

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          • #6
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            I, like Turkish, have all sorts of rude, crude and damn funny things to say about this thread, but I will hold myself to this one piece of advice:

            If you are looking for a skill based career, you shouldn't be asking other people what career to choose, but rather ask yourself what skills you have.

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            • #7
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              Let's see... no thinking... more than 50k a year...

              How about drug dealer? :p
              Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

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              • #8
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                I wasn't trying to come off as a big prick, I just think you need to focus on what YOU want to do. If you want to be a "Ultra 1337 Ranger Beret Seal", then work hard towards it, find out how you need to prep for it. If you want to be a Chef, the same thing applies, look at what qualification and training you need. Look at the salary among other things that are important to you.

                My opinion however is, if you can't put in the time or effort to look, then you shouldn't even waste your time, because people that don't WANT to succeed, don't.

                Keep an open mind an remember, things just come at you sometimes, and you just roll with it.

                For example I woke up one day thinking to myself "Hmm...I want to become an EMT, and go do some cool ****, and help people while I finish my degree...", guess what, I did. I am now a NREMT, stuff just comes at you sometimes.
                |TG-X|Turkish

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                • #9
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                  Porn industry $$$

                  You know how much porn you watch.
                  Imagine if you were on the receiving end
                  (no pun intended)

                  :P
                  |TG|Switch

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                  That noob who crashed the chopper.
                  That noob who ran over the mine.
                  That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle.
                  That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC...

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                  • #10
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                    I was seriously thinking of going into the porn business LOL :)

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Twiggy View Post
                      Im lookin for fields that offer from $50,000 to six figure incomes.
                      lol

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                      • #12
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                        The best way to be happy, find something you love to do and figure out a way to make money doing it. There are plenty of miserable doctors and lawyers making a lot of money, and plenty of very happy people not making much at all. I find it interesting that you say 50k+ then list two jobs that are on the low end of that scale, if they make it at all.

                        What will make you happy, then go from there...

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Twiggy View Post
                          Well its coming close to the time when I graduate from high school. But Im having trouble picking what career fields to take interest into. Im lookin for fields that offer from $50,000 to six figure incomes. So if anybody has any advice as to what careers are best please post here. It does not neccessarily have to be a career where a 4 year degree is required cause these days most high paying jobs are more skill based than educational based. I like dealing with computers but I dont want a job thats to hard on the brain if you know what i mean. I also want to become a police officer since its a few notches down from the military and they have really great benefits. I also wouldnt mind joining the armed forces :)
                          As Ferris said please dear god goto college. The opportunities for college graduates goes through the roof with that 4 year degree. You like dealing with computer search for computer related courses at your local college. Those courses will give you an opportunity to see if you like programming/web development/game design, etc. I would like to know why you think that most high paying jobs are skill based as opposed to being based on a degree. The degree gets you in the door the experience from there makes you worth something. Take it from an accountant with only an Associates degree, the degree matters, I made a nice living for myself, but I've found that in order to move on, most companies won't even look at me without the minimum of a 4 year degree, most want a Masters.

                          As for the idea that a high paying job that isn't hard on the brain, I wish you the best, I can't imagine any job that pays more that $50K not being at least a little mentally challenging.
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                          • #14
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                            Well, unless you're in a business that most would consider immoral, then I would suggest you need a job that requires thinking and brainwork. I've loved some of my past jobs, but it would seem that the more mentally taxing they are, the more my pay has been. I'm in the oil & gas business and love it. A general degree is not exactly required for what I do, but I worked hard to get it, and once I graduated with a completely unrelated degree, I negotiated my pay to be almost double what I was making before. So get your degree.

                            If you have a technical skill you love and want to make a career, go to a technical college to get that important certification. Whether it be an auto mechanic, plumber, electrician, or welder. Certified tradesmen (especially master techs) can make a lot of money and do extremely well, BUT they too require a lot of brain work and skill. My old neighbor, who is still a good friend of mine, is an auto mechanic at Carmax. He went to college to get his associates degree in auto mechanics from the beginning. He has now been in the field long enough and has passed his master mechanic test, so he will soon be making around 100K a year...at Carmax! He's already making around 60K. The guys a real puzzle worker and is the best mechanic I know. It is also not a brainless job.

                            If you don't know what you want to do, either join the military or go to university to get any old degree until you figure out what it is that you want to do. I changed majors like 3 times, so it's ok to be indecisive right now. Unlike what school counselors would have you believe, you don't have to pick a career right now. Heck, you can even work some easy job and take a sabbatical from school. I took a semester off my freshman year. Well worth it and I had some really fun jobs in the meanwhile. Just don't get stuck and make dang sure you get yourself back in school after your break.
                            "Common sense is not so common." -Voltaire

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Twiggy View Post
                              Im lookin for fields that offer from $50,000 to six figure incomes. ... I dont want a job thats to hard on the brain if you know what i mean.
                              Truck driver meets both criteria.

                              No, really, it does.

                              But whatever you do, go to college first.

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