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  • First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

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    First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

    Last week, the 174th Air Force Fighter Wing flew its last manned combat sortie over Iraq in F-16s, which have now been mothballed in favor of MQ-9 Reapers. This makes it the first combat-specific wing to ditch conventional aircraft entirely in favor of unmanned robo-drones piloted from the ground. Welcome to the Skynet era, everyone!
    More at the link.................



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    Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

    Watch out!
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      Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

      there was a great article in men's journal a month or so back, about the predator uav that is flown out of an AFB in Nevada......the predator unlike the typical UAV can carry weapons as posted in the picture above.
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        I could tell you guys all the details...but then I would have to kill you;)
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          Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

          Pretty crazy.

          Trustin dem damn robittz with our mizzles.
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            Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

            when you cease to use people in war, the war becomes a game...with real life casualties though.

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              Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

              Originally posted by oldirti View Post
              when you cease to use people in war, the war becomes a game...with real life casualties though.
              All the unmanned vehicles now and in the future will never replace the ground troops. It has been said time and time again, vehicles can not occupy a city, they only provide the support to get the troops in there.



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                Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                Originally posted by oldirti View Post
                when you cease to use people in war, the war becomes a game...with real life casualties though.
                Have you played MGS2? It nullifies your statement perfectly.

                Also, I forgot in my first post.

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                  Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                  This just popped up a few mins ago

                  Figured people interested in UAV would like to read it

                  Do Drone Pilots Feel Combat Stress?

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                    Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                    These aren't robots. They're remotely piloted. The brains doing the flying are still human.

                    That they're controlled remotely means that they have to deal with interference and jamming, and are susceptible to getting their control links cut.

                    A big advantage of an RPV is that you can crank up the G forces. The planes have long been a lot tougher than the meat bags inside. Even with extensive training and clothing compensation to make those bags tolerate lots more Gs than is natural, they severely curtail the maneuverability of an aircraft.
                    Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

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                      Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                      Sick.



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                        Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                        And in even further news:

                        First Fully-Unmanned Machine Combat in History Heralds Robotic Apocalypse

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                          Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                          With an entire wing of UAVs in the US Air Force, we won't be surprised to see full-scale unmanned and robotic battles in the near future. The question is: if nobody is going to die—except probably civilians on the ground—what's the bloody point of real war? Why not just organize a videogame league and get over with it?
                          This shows a misunderstanding of the point of war. It's not about the killing. It's about resource control, and about making people act the way you want them to act. Slaughtering people is just a means to those ends, but not a necessary means.
                          Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

                          snooggums' density principal: "The more dense a population, the more dense a population."

                          Iliana: "You're a great friend but if we're ever chased by zombies I'm tripping you."

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                            Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                            Do-it-yourself UAV helicopter:

                            http://vicacopter.com/

                            Here you'll find all the source code and many notes used in Vicacopter. You need to be an expert in PIC assembly & the VicaCopter source code to actually get it to work, but this is not an incomplete snapshot of an early state which can't hover. This is the actual source code flying our autonomous T-Rex 450. There is no support or warranty.

                            Vicacopter uses inertial guidance + GPS to hover. A neural network makes hovering using 1Hz non-differential/non-carrier phase GPS possible. More stable results in 4Hz GPS are also supported. Flybar & tail rotor damping is done using the IMU. A second neural network controls the swashplate mixing.

                            Airframe #1 was a Corona 120. That is no longer manufactured, so now she is a flybarless T-Rex 450. What VicaCopter can do:

                            Autonomous hover.
                            Change altitude & position from stick commands.
                            Attitude hold or full position hold.
                            Waypoint following.
                            Rigid head & tail rotor damping.
                            Software revo mixing.
                            Neural network or hand coded CCPM.
                            Camera trigger.
                            Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

                            snooggums' density principal: "The more dense a population, the more dense a population."

                            Iliana: "You're a great friend but if we're ever chased by zombies I'm tripping you."

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                              Re: First All-UAV Air Force Combat Wing Takes to the Skies Sans Pilots Over Iraq

                              BBoo,

                              I have been involved around RPV's/UAV's since 1988 when my fathers company was building systems in the UK. Unfortunately the great British Government of the day decided to plow billions into the GEC Marconi "Phoenix" disaster a hopelessly crappy aircraft that did not carry a decent payload and had to land by parachute! But because GEC were good at milking the government for cash, and giving back handers, no one else could get near.

                              We had a "Twin-Romboid wing" Rotax powered aircraft called the "Griffin" that was about 15 feet long and had the ability to take hardpoints in 1989. This was a truly evil looking piece of kit, I will try to dig out some pictures. Unfortunately GW1 came along and a contract the company was working on collapsed as no one knew how long the conflict would have lasted and the company folded. He was 10 years too early with his company.

                              Now it's all about the UAV, yet even what they are flying today, does not have the flight characteristics of the Griffin, which had been designed to fly slow enough that it could match the speed of a ship to land on a helipad.

                              As a young lad I spent many weekends at the factory and going on test days down at Charlgrove Airfield, (where Martin Baker test their ejection seats) with the kit. We also had a smaller RPV called the Merlin, which would carry around a 400lb payload of camera's. I the late eighties, FLIR's and other Camera's where a lot larger and gyro mounts were a lot less advanced than they are now.

                              Unfortunately such kit is now the domain of the big Defense companies and when the Boeing X45C comes on line: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-45
                              Then we will see a real evolution in UAV roles.

                              BD1
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