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    Hello everyone,

    I am recently having some serious problems with my old PC. It was custom made in 2005 so here are the basic specs:

    * Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz
    * 2.5 GB RAM (upgraded in 2008)
    * Hard Drive: 500GB (replaced a few days ago)
    * NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (upgraded in 2008)
    * Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3

    Here are my issues:
    My PC freezes every time I play a game, browse the web or watch videos. When it happens, I can't do anything else except trying to restart my computer. It works for about an hour and then it starts all over again. Sometimes the blue screen error follows after freezing and sometimes it does not display at all.

    So far, I have taken it to be repaired (a few days ago). After tests, the following parts have been replaced/repaired:
    * Hard drive (not sure of the brand name - in the $60 range)
    * Power Supply repaired (cost me $50).

    After I brought it home from the repair place, the next day same problems started happening again. :(

    I have thoroughly cleaned my PC inside (including the graphics card). There is no dust present and all the fans are working correctly. Anti virus check shows that everything is OK and the hard drive does not need to be de-fragged.

    I honestly do not know what to do now. Your help will be greatly appreciated and my apologies for the long post.

    Cheers.

  • #2
    Re: Issues with my old PC

    Since you have ruled out the PSU and HDD (they would be the first two suspects on my list)...

    Are you using DDR2 or DDR1 RAM?

    I'm assuming you're not running the RAM in matched pairs or in even densities for that matter (2.5 GBs == proof). I would try running a 2 x 512 MB or 2 x 1024 MB match pair of RAM for a day and see if you still have problems.

    With dual-channel motherboards, you always want to buy RAM as matched pairs and in even densities (ex: 2 x 1 GB, 2 x 2 GB, 2 x 4 GB, etc). This will help eliminate timing/voltage hiccups between the two sticks (or multiple sticks) as well as greatly improve performance overall.

    That about covers the hardware side of things...now for the software side of things:

    1. Did you update your video card drivers yet?

    2. Do you have the latest Flash version? (Sometimes old Flash versions cause a lot of crashes with other up-to-date software.)

    3. Is your browser up-to-date?
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    • #3
      Re: Issues with my old PC

      Thank you very much for your help Acreo Aeneas. I appreciate it a lot.

      I am using DDR2 RAM and when I had it upgraded in 2008, technician said that he could not upgrade it more than 2.5 GB. I assumed that was OK and never even thought if they were mis-matched. I will tell the technician to check this issue as well (when I bring it next time).

      My video card drivers have been updated. Browser is up to date and the Flash version as well.

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      • #4
        Re: Issues with my old PC

        Thats really odd that he said he couldnt update it beyond 2.5 gigs...Ive never actually heard of that before. Im going to take a shot in the dark and guess that he meant because XP doesnt officially recognize more then 3gb (if that) so he figured that 2.5 would do it. If that was the case then you need to find a new computer guy because you can put more then 3GB on XP, its just not going to be used. (I had 4gb at one point) I have to agree with Acreo when he says that its best to stick with similar densities. If your running 2x1GB sticks and a 512mb stick, thats definitely a funny configuration. Have you tried running a memtest? There are a few programs that you can run to test your RAM. You have to test each stick individually, and it takes a long time but it is a good way of testing your RAM. (other then swapping sticks). Unfortunately I dont know which is the best memtest program to use because luckily i havent needed it. Im sure a quick google search will turn up some good results for you.

        Ive had a similar problem with my computer BSOD'ing and crashing randomly which has turned out to be a corrupt copy of windows. Are you running a cracked copy of XP? Its known that some cracks or keygens can cause errors in the registry files in windows causing it to BSOD and crash, each time giving a multitude of errors that make finding the problem almost impossible.

        There is also a thing you can try, which is a driver verifier. Windows 7 comes with it stock, and what it does is keep track of which driver or drivers fail and records it. When your computer blue screens it shows on the blue screen which driver caused the problem and of course supplies you with the error code (0x00 etc). Im not 100% sure that XP does but im pretty sure that you can find it.

        http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...dware/gg487389

        Heres a quick tid bit on XP's driver verifier and if you go back a page or two there is some more information on it. I suggest giving this a try, just make sure you have your computer set so that it doesn't restart on a BSOD. This allows you to read the message because normally the BSOD only shows for a second or two. If you're able to record a few drivers that are causing the problem, record them and post them up.

        Good luck!
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        • #5
          Re: Issues with my old PC

          Originally posted by ZuluBravo View Post
          Thank you very much for your help Acreo Aeneas. I appreciate it a lot.

          I am using DDR2 RAM and when I had it upgraded in 2008, technician said that he could not upgrade it more than 2.5 GB. I assumed that was OK and never even thought if they were mis-matched. I will tell the technician to check this issue as well (when I bring it next time).

          My video card drivers have been updated. Browser is up to date and the Flash version as well.
          Ask him to put in a matched pair DDR2 RAM of the same density (for each stick) and see if that solves your problems.

          If it doesn't, then we can at least rule out another piece of hardware.

          Originally posted by gijoe View Post
          Thats really odd that he said he couldnt update it beyond 2.5 gigs...Ive never actually heard of that before. Im going to take a shot in the dark and guess that he meant because XP doesnt officially recognize more then 3gb (if that) so he figured that 2.5 would do it.
          That's my assumption if he is in fact using 32-bit XP. There's no point in wasting money on a full 4 GBs of RAM if you can only make use of 3.2 GBs or less.

          Ive had a similar problem with my computer BSOD'ing and crashing randomly which has turned out to be a corrupt copy of windows. Are you running a cracked copy of XP? Its known that some cracks or keygens can cause errors in the registry files in windows causing it to BSOD and crash, each time giving a multitude of errors that make finding the problem almost impossible.
          A cracked copy could be at fault, though it's a remote possibility. If anything, it could be just your current install of XP is badly mangled in some way or another. Usually when I had XP machines, I'd have to reformat them once a year because at some point mysterious things happen that I can't fix unless I reinstall Windows.

          There is also a thing you can try, which is a driver verifier.
          That's a good suggestion, though it's pretty headachy to sift through the output file yourself if you have no clue what to look for (or what you are looking at). Usually, if it's a BSOD, it's either faulty drivers or RAM. In rare cases, it's corrupt Windows core files, logon files, or registry.
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          TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
          Former 9th & 13th

          Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
          Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





          SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

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          • #6
            Re: Issues with my old PC

            My apologies for the late reply.

            For the last 24 hours they were testing my PC and and the results are:
            - Memory normal
            - Graphics card updated

            The problem was Windows XP. They re-installed it for me and I have no problems at all right now (I have a legal XP copy).

            Thank you very much for your help Acreo Aeneas and gijoe. I appreciate it a lot. :)

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            • #7
              Re: Issues with my old PC

              At least we now know it was corrupted XP.
              |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
              TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
              Former 9th & 13th

              Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
              Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





              SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

              TG Primer and Rules

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