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    So I have a crappy internet connection, I know it, there is nothing I can do about it at the moment. But it has gotten worse recently. I can barely play any game online.

    I live in a rural area and the only options are dial up, satellite, turbo stick (not really an option if you ask me) or fixed wireless. I have fixed wireless, it runs by line-of-sight transmission. I have recently gotten the modem/receiver moved to increase reception, this has helped greatly. My big issue right now is my latency. I have taken all other devices out of the loop and I am still getting some major slow downs. I have the ping calc running in TS, this has generally given me fairly accurate idea as to what my avg latency is. I have checked the numbers against other ping measurements. I was getting a decent rate of 100-200ms +/- 50-90. That has jumped now to an avg of 480ms +/- 200.

    As you can imagine this has been extremely annoying. I am just wondering if anyone has any idea's or suggestions to causes and solutions.

    I have a new build, fresh install of windows 7 with Origin & Steam and a few associated games.

    Intel i5-2500k stock speed/fan
    Asus P8-Z68 pro MB
    Patriot 8GB ram
    GTX 260
    Acer 22" monitor

    Any help is appreciated
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  • #2
    Re: Anyone know about latency??

    Moderated. Thank you for trolling.
    Last edited by =DdogG=; 01-31-2012, 12:53 AM. Reason: unneeded inflamatory comment.

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    • #3
      Re: Anyone know about latency??

      Have you tried ping plotter to the actual servers you play on and not just TS?
      If you have not, it may expose a few bad hops along the way or show where you may have a traffic bottleneck during peak hours.
      It may help you separate issues you can and cannot do anything about.

      http://www.pingplotter.com/download.html

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      • #4
        Re: Anyone know about latency??

        Originally posted by jb4 View Post
        Have you tried ping plotter to the actual servers you play on and not just TS?
        If you have not, it may expose a few bad hops along the way or show where you may have a traffic bottleneck during peak hours.
        It may help you separate issues you can and cannot do anything about.

        http://www.pingplotter.com/download.html
        Thanks I will try this and see if it turns up anything.
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        • #5
          Re: Anyone know about latency??

          If the router you're connected to has any sort of packet prioritization (usually under QoS), it may also be affecting your latency (increasing ping times) because most will place game related packets last and put VoIP and web browsing packets ahead.
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          • #6
            Re: Anyone know about latency??

            Not trying to steal your thread, but, basically I have a similar problem. Since 2 weeks ago random spikes started happening every 10s or something and the ping hops to like 1000ms. It's so super annoying, i can't play literally anything. I used ping
            plotter but other than showing me that i have problems it doesn't help or I just dont see how it helps me. Help would be greatly appreciated
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            • #7
              Re: Anyone know about latency??

              No worries on the hijack :P Beside isn't that what you dirty pirates do? :D

              In all seriousness though, I have verified that it isn't my system, I took it to the city to play.......holy crap playing without latency is freaking AWESOME!!!!!

              Alas I am back at home and again the lag spikes are back!

              So I slowly trudge along and hope I don't lag out in the middle of the road again.
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              • #8
                Re: Anyone know about latency??

                In my case the problem is with me because my brother is on the same connection and everything but he's not getting any lagg spikes, we even play the same game together (League of legends) and my ping hops to 200ms constant for 6seconds (normal would be under 60). And sometimes it gets even worse because it gets to 1200 and i literally don't even hear friends over skype when we talk.
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                • #9
                  Re: Anyone know about latency??

                  This may be a silly question, but are you within cell reception? Could you get a usb-bell stick or rogers stick and just get an unlimited data plan? I guess you would need 3G cell reception. You can buy cell phone signal boosters now too that are reasonably priced if your reception is patchy.

                  Never experienced fixed wireless so tough to say on this one.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Anyone know about latency??

                    Not a silly question at all Housekeeper, yes I am in cell range. My sister lives 1km up the road from me and uses the Rogers rocket hub. I have tried it, I don't know what it is but that thing sucked! Regular browsing was horrible with it. I am looking at getting a new cell phone (Google Galaxy Nexus, can get it for $10) and get the 6GB data plan with it and try using that to tether with. Since I can use that for my laptop as well during work hours I can write off most of the expense.

                    I noticed on the screenshots from the scrim that on one of them my ping showed up as 660ms! It was pretty annoying as the whole afternoon leading upto the scrim I was not having any real problems with the lag spikes.

                    Thanks for the replies gentlemen, if/when I do get a solution to this issue I will make sure to update this post. In the meantime keep the suggestions flowing!
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                    • #11
                      Re: Anyone know about latency??

                      Whats up hil3illy,

                      I don't think you have many options at the moment. Wireless sounds like your best bet according to where you live. Satellite would be massively lagged. (even worse than wireless). Transmitting signals through air is not as fast as transmitting them through a glass fiber or copper wiring. I wish I could come up with a magic bullet, but I don't think there is one except moving to an area that has preferably fiber to your house (Verizon), or telephone wiring that connects to a fiber node close by. Your problem description is a carbon copy of many people who use wireless connectivity for gaming. Large lag spikes, poor ping, etc.

                      However, after stating that, it doesn't hurt to be vigilant. There might be something out there that can improve your ping.

                      Personally I have copper wiring to a fiber node close by, and that gets me around 60-100 ping on the TG servers. Still not all that great. The servers must be located on the East Coast.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Anyone know about latency??

                        Oh how I wish the Fibre optic cable came this far! Bell (largest telco in area/Canada) just finished laying in a new fibre optic line, they stopped 900m from my house! I am hoping that they are going to be installing a node there and I will eventually be able to hook up to that. I have used satellite, it used to be the only alternative to dial up. It gave a guaranteed 1000ms ping, thats just how long it took to hit the satellite and back again.

                        I love where I live, with the exception of the internet connections available. My wife thinks I'm a little crazy when I tell her that when we move the type of internet connection available will make or break a house for me :).
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                        • #13
                          Re: Anyone know about latency??

                          Originally posted by QuantumQrack View Post
                          Transmitting signals through air is not as fast as transmitting them through a glass fiber or copper wiring.
                          This is false. It's like physics 101.

                          Radio waves travel at the speed of light. The speed that light travels in a medium like a fiber optic cable depends on its refractive index. The higher the refractive index, the slower your signal travels through the medium. The refractive index of air is something like 1.0002. Water is 1.3 or so. And fiber optic cable is around 1.6. The speed at which electromagnetic waves travel through copper wiring is similar. So electromagnetic signals travel about 33% faster through air - pretty close to light speed in a vacuum - than through fiber optic cable or copper wire. The speed of the signal is not what's causing latency problems. (Though this does come in to play for satellite signals since those are quite far away.)

                          Science works!

                          What is causing your latency issues is likely your signal to noise ratio (SNR). In general a low SNR requires that more time is spent processing out noise or waiting for missing information, which introduces significant latency. What's nice about fiber optic or copper wire is that they have very high SNRs. In most wireless set ups, SNR is what causes high latency. (Although it could be other things like poor internet routing by your ISP or hardware malfunctions either on your end or theirs.) You might call your service provider and ask them to check out your SNR; they might be able to do something to increase it. But it's the nature of wireless communications and its problems with SNR.
                          Last edited by sordavie; 01-16-2012, 12:04 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Anyone know about latency??

                            Yes, science does work. However, context is more important regarding what I said. The context here is in internet connectivity using different mediums of transmission. When I used the term fast, it is meant for the purposes of computer gaming which is what the OP is discussing. If a computer gamer has a "fast" connection what they really mean is that it is good for gaming. I highly doubt if somebody says that their computer connection is fast they are referring to the refraction index of materials.

                            Wireless connectivity is a shared connection, much like cable. Several people (hundreds, perhaps thousands) use shared bandwidth which can significantly degrade your signal therefor it is not as fast. That is why the OP's ping is poor, among other reasons, using a wireless connection. A fiber connection, or hard connection to your ISP is usually faster.

                            Again, when you try construct a rebuttal to somebody's argument make sure you take the whole context into account and not just a sentence or two, as if that is their whole argument.

                            Thanks for playing sordavie. :-)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Anyone know about latency??

                              Rofl.

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