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    Hey guys, I am getting ready to build a new machine and was wondering what the real world performance gains are as far as different ram is? Is there really much of an FPS difference in gaming? I know this is a pretty general question but I am going to be on a budget and need to know so I can make sensible decision. Right now I am planning on a 2500k proc, 8-16gb of mem, probably an asrock z68 board, and I am probably going to flip to ATI 6970 2GB for my video. I don't care about benchmarks, I do care about RL perf =) Anyway, thanks for the thoughts

    Also, if you have any thoughts on video card or mobo, please feel free to speak up. Nothing is set in stone yet. The biggest reason I am looking at the 6970 is the video mem, I prefer 2 gb.
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    Do u mean different speeds? Or different amounts?

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      Re: Ram Question

      System memory speed is not worth worrying about.

      Video card memory speed can make a difference.
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        I researched that question too when I was buying my 32gb of Geil. It was 30 bucks instantly off each 16gb kit (which was already 25 cheaper than the cheapest 1600 16gb kit) so it was EXTREMELY hard to justify jumping up to the 1600. I didn't want to cripple my awesome new computer with dirt slow ram though - even if it was 120 bucks more to step up. the answer.... 3-4% under the most extreme overclock and most demanding - purpose built synthetic benchmark. most RL benches were within 1% (we are talking 319 seconds instead of 308 or 87fps instead of 89.)

        so, is it worth the crap ton of extra $$$ for 2%. no to me. I got 32gb 1333 for the cost of 16gb 1600. I think I made the right choice. Not to mention the xmp on my ram does allow for a 1600 speed, but I think the 10-10-10-28 latencies would offset any real gains from the 8-8-8-22 I have at 1333. I dunno. not worth it to eek out that extra little bit.

        and if you are looking for opinions, check out the build I just put together. I reasearched the crap out of every part I put in the thing.

        http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=264
        a review of my PSU's big brother

        everyone knows about the 2500k

        http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/s...-the-best-ddr3
        why sandybridge doesn't need higher than 1600 ddr3...

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        http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Motherb...erboard-Review
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          Memory speed is not worth worrying about at all. For DDR3 all you need is DDR3-1333 or 1600. For the love of God don't waste your time overclocking your memory, it's one of the most pointless pursuits in computer tweaking.

          As for how much RAM to buy, it really depends on what you're doing. For gaming, performance is generally insensitive to extra RAM. For developers, graphics, video editing or content creation, the more RAM the better. For a new build I would start with 8GB as the baseline. 8GB kits are fairly inexpensive and would cover your needs as far as gaming. Go up to 16GB if you have the room in your budget.
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            Re: Ram Question

            Thanks for the info guys =) Answered most of my question one last part. Is there a reason to go with a "premium" version of one maker instead of their baseline memory? Ie....corsair dominator vs corsair xms. The mobo I am looking at is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157271 I aam not sure if I am going to sli/crossfire. I keep hearing about microstuttering. Is it that much of a hassle? Asking because another option is a pair of 6850's. Thanks again for the opinions and info. You guys rock!

            As far as the mobo....I would love to go with the extreme but it is outside of my budget. Trying to keep it <$180. I am not set on Asrock, they just seem to give the most bang for the buck.
            Last edited by avenging llama; 02-16-2012, 11:24 AM. Reason: edited to add info
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              I have owned 2 Asrock boards and built 2 other systems with them I am a complete fan. The offering to cost cannot be beat.
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                As I recall, Oldgunny is our certified RAM expert...

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                  I have never sprung for the high end ram. amount over timing. In the end, as long as its pushing the data around cleanly, the few fps the high end stuff gets you (you are paying for tighter timing, heatsinks, and fans) don't = the cost.
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                    Re: Ram Question

                    Originally posted by =DdogG= View Post
                    I have never sprung for the high end ram. amount over timing. In the end, as long as its pushing the data around cleanly, the few fps the high end stuff gets you (you are paying for tighter timing, heatsinks, and fans) don't = the cost.
                    I guess that is what I have been tryin to figure out. I didn't think that there could be that much of a diff in fps, but wanted more opinions =)
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                      Re: Ram Question

                      I normally recommend staying with companies that have been around or proven track records. Crucial, Corsair, Kingston, Mushkin and G.Skill. This is mostly due to motherboard companies test their systems with these manufacturers. Also, the likelyhood of not getting what you purchased (i.e. DDR-1333 or 1600 and it wont run the promised specs or timings) are minimal. As far as the premium versus standard models is normally tolerances in overclocking or more headroom for overclocking without greatly impacting your timings. They normally have better built heatsinks on the chips to deal with additional heat, and are the better chips. If you have the money, go for better than standard. If your not going to overclock, I would say go a step above the entry level sticks.

                      Some good sticks @ 8GB DDR 1333 and 1600, and all under $50
                      G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314

                      G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231311

                      CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145315

                      Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226095

                      CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145324

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