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    Whats up everyone? To start off, my name is Brandon. Basically as the title describes, I am hoping to begin building my first PC in the next few months. A little about me first. I am a college student as well as a gamer. Over the years, I have been mostly a console gamer but am finally realizing how impressive PC gaming can actually be. I have a old Dell Vostro 200 desktop which is running very slow nowadays and also bought myself a good HP laptop about a year ago which I use quite a bit. I was thinking this laptop could do more gaming than it actually could but mostly got it for my schooling. Basically, I am thinking about investing on a desktop PC as a workstation but focus more on gaming as well. I am trying to get some decent information about what different parts everyone recommends, which I assume I will buy from Newegg or Amazon, etc. I don't intend to do any hardcore gaming (yet!) like Battlefield 3 or Call of Duty but I do fancy to play games such as ArmA II and III as well as the standalone version of DayZ (which is currently a zombie mod from ArmA II) and World of Tanks, etc. I would like to have the option of being able to either play (or upgrade) the PC to be able to play more hardcore modern games if I ever decide to (or if money permits me to upgrade:P). I have searched around the internet as well as this sight for info but decided that posting a thread would be more beneficial to me instead. Any help is appreciated and Thank You in advance! Cheers!

    Also, its safe to say my budget is anywhere from $800-$1000 but I could possibly have some wiggle room to spend past that amount if needed!

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    Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

    Originally posted by Brandon Lawhorn View Post
    I don't intend to do any hardcore gaming (yet!) like Battlefield 3 or Call of Duty but I do fancy to play games such as ArmA II and III as well as the standalone version of DayZ (which is currently a zombie mod from ArmA II) and World of Tanks, etc.
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. HTFU. BF3 and CoD are not even on the level of ArmA 2 or what ArmA 3 will be. Bottom line, you'd need a more powerful machine to max out A2 and A3 than BF3 and CoD.

    Originally posted by Brandon Lawhorn View Post
    Also, its safe to say my budget is anywhere from $800-$1000 but I could possibly have some wiggle room to spend past that amount if needed!
    $800-1,000 can get you a good machine. Newegg is pretty much the place to go for parts, unless you live close to a Micro Center (they always have great prices on mother boards and processors).

    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119256
    $60, but you get 15% off and free shipping on it with the promotion code provided for it.

    Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157293
    ASRock is a great brand if you're on a budget.

    CPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=I69-3570K
    The best bang for the buck processor out here.

    Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065
    If you plan on overclocking, or just want to keep your CPU cooler during heavy gaming, this is the one to go with. Just verify on Cooler Master's website that it will fit in the case.

    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
    Corsair's products are always good with great customer service.

    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231460

    GPU: Honestly, I don't want to step on this one. Most will say get an nvidia, but I just flat out don't like them. I'm more fond of AMD.

    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533
    Probably one of the most used HDDs in gaming computers.

    Disc Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
    Cheap, does what it you need it to do.

    Total of what I put down will put you around $725. That would give you a couple of hundred bucks to search for a GPU if you went to your $1,000 top end of the budget.

    You can save a few dollars by searching bargain sites. Just shop smart and don't get extremely anxious on buying immediately.

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      Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

      Thanks man for the reply. I did not know that about arma vs battlefield and cod. So in your opinion (minus the gpu) do you think the items you listed would be able to run the arma games smoothly on medium to high setting. I know it depends on the graphics card (is there a specific one you like the most). Also if I look up system requirements for arma and dayz would it be mre smart to buy the graphics card they list (I want to be over the recommended hardware and not near the minimum gear). I hope I didnt make this reply confusing and thanks again!

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        Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

        The parts he listed are pretty good. Although, cases are a personal choice.

        Reading through this will get you started with the GPU: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3107.html
        It was just published last month which is good. Be mindful of your budget. Getting the most expensive GPU on the market is usually a waste because new, better cards are coming out every 6-12 months. You also don't want a cheap card that can't perform with the games you desire to play.
        Viking

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          Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

          Originally posted by Brandon Lawhorn View Post
          Thanks man for the reply. I did not know that about arma vs battlefield and cod. So in your opinion (minus the gpu) do you think the items you listed would be able to run the arma games smoothly on medium to high setting. I know it depends on the graphics card (is there a specific one you like the most). Also if I look up system requirements for arma and dayz would it be mre smart to buy the graphics card they list (I want to be over the recommended hardware and not near the minimum gear). I hope I didnt make this reply confusing and thanks again!
          Oh, they'll easily run ArmA 2, ArmA 3 and DayZ standalone on high to 'ultra' (as most looking for a rig for BF3 put it) settings. Basically, the graphics card you select will make the build.

          As for the graphics cards, I'm more of an AMD guy. Never have like the support software for nvidias. A lot of people have stated that AMDs drivers are buggy (which I've yet to encounter that problem or I just haven't noticed enough to make me super sensitive when I play games and throw sh*t through my screen when I have one little lag).

          As for what DaViking put, I was thinking about suggesting the 7870. My roommate just got a 7770 to plug into his rig (which is built off my MOBO, CPU, RAM and HDD and hasn't paid me for) and he's able to get really good frame rates on high graphics on a lot of games.

          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150605
          That's what I'd go with. I have an XFX AMD card and it runs like a beast.

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            Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

            I recently did a rebuild thru Microcenter( deals were good and some better than online venders). Best buy, beside Intel MB and i5 3570 Quad with 32 gigs of ram, was the Samsung 840 250G SSD drive. All this was $750.00. plus a 2 hour ride to the store and 2 hour drive back home. I now can do Arma2 with all settings high-10000 meter view and frps range from low of 45 to high of 70 to 90. My old rig was an AMD64 5600 Dual Core with 8 gigs of ram. For now I am sticking with my 560ti video card and might go 2 generations higher after Arma3 comes out later this year or next.

            The SSD drive is the most important element to have Arma2 Combined Arms at it's best. I currently have only my OS and Arma2 on the SSD drive. All other programs are running on my other drive.

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              Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

              Yeah, have to agree with sarge. SSDs make a big difference on booting Windows and with some games. I run 3 of them in my rig and wish I could put everything on them. If you can fit one in budget, get one. A 128GB Samsung 840 is probably the best one to get right now. It'll have enough room to install Windows and ArmA 2. Just don't fill the capacity all the way up, leave about 15% so the drive will have room to shift files around and reduce the read/write wear.

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              • #8
                Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                You guys rock! So I went on Newegg and TigerDirect and have added all of the suggested material into my Cart (minus the Case) and have come up with a total of $1045.00 (this includes the CPU, GPU, SSD, MotherBoard, i5-3570k Processor, PSU, RAM, Disc Drive, HDD, and Heatsink). Seems like an awesome price to me lol The one thing I will also need is a new monitor but it seems I will probably have to hold off on that since good ones I have been searching for are upwards of $250+ and also a case. Is the one suggested near the top big enough to hold everything here and also possibly if i decided to upgrade in the future?

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                • #9
                  Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                  Corsair make good cases a for any budget. Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1&name=Corsair

                  The cheapest Corsair case is about $45 - $10rebate with free shipping. Wide case to accommodate the cooler and cable management. USB 3.0 ports on the front. Dust filter on the intake. Clean look.
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139018

                  Also, don't forget Win7. You can usually get it free through your IT Dept. if you are a university student (or know one). Keyboard, mouse, headphones/set.
                  Viking

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                  • #10
                    Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                    I just upgraded my machine. I did a budget friendly build and got a lot for my money.

                    Gigabyte ga-z77x-d3h had a rebate
                    3570k used stock cooler unless you are going to overclock
                    Gtx 660 ti for about $230 after rebate 2gb ram
                    Rosewill Challanger $30 after rebate awesome reviews
                    8gb of ram is all u need
                    Got a rosewill psu for $30-40 sli ready 630w 80 plus
                    I also reused some hw
                    Mouse (until last month)
                    Kb
                    Hdd 500gb 5.4k laptop hdd still load faster than people bc of cache.

                    U dont need to get everything at once
                    I ended going liquid for over clocking dont even need it though want to try over clocking

                    Also use fatwallet.com and bensbargains.net
                    Lights Out!

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                      Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                      Thank you for the awesome info! :) Yeah it will all get pricey so I will buy a few parts at a time and than wait for a new paycheck, etc. lol

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                        Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                        Get what u need then upgrade later. I will be getting a SSD soon. I waited on my mouse and after market cooler. CPU and Video card is the big money part. Don't get an expensive case as u will sacrafise preformance. The case I posted goes on sale often. It includes 3 fans, has ports in front, and has awesome airflow. It also has filters everywhere, but the side pannel. Need to get my fiance to buy some panty hose to use as a filter.
                        Lights Out!

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                          Re: First Time PC Builder Help!

                          If you are thinking of getting the 7870 or 7970 GPU from AMD, they are running a special where you can get 2 (hopefully) good games.

                          http://xfxforce.com/en-us/features/n...aded-2013.aspx $100-120 worth of games...
                          Viking

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