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    So a friend asked me to build him a gaming machine. He said his budget is around the 700 dollar range. This is what i came up with, I wanted to ask where i can shave things off. This wont be built until the summer, so some things might drop in price or be swapped out.

    Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ---$69.99 -$15.00 Instant $54.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

    Video Card: MSI N660 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card --- $214.99 -$20.00 Instant $194.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127699

    HDD: Western Digital WD Black WD5003AZEX 500GB 7200 RPM RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive --- $74.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822236345


    Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS --- $104.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130646

    Power Supply: CORSAIR CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply --$79.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139048

    RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL --- $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314


    CPU: Intel Core i5-3330 Ivy Bridge 3.0GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53330 --- $189.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116781

    Total: $765


    I know the AMD route is cheaper, but it's been so long since I've looked at them (my last processor from them was an AMD opteron back in 2007) that I don't know the good price to power ratios, nor good motherboards. Could a couple of AMD fanboys lend a hand in making a cheaper alternative?
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  • #2
    Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

    Here are some better (and cheaper) alternatives that I think are more suitable to the build. The ones that are bolded are his best buy picks.

    Cases

    $45 - NZXT Tempest 210
    * has 1 USB 3.0 port on the front (goes with the USB 3.0 header on the board)
    * mesh front similar to the Antec Three Hundred
    * toolless drive mounts
    * bottom mounted PSU

    $45 - Xigmatek Asgard Pro
    * has 1 USB 3.0 on the front panel
    * front panel connections are on the top (great for floor standing rigs)
    * mesh front
    * toolless drive mounts
    * bottom mounted PSU

    $50 - NZXT Source 220
    * has 1 USB 3.0 port on front panel
    * mesh front
    * toolless drive mounts
    * bottom mounted PSU

    $55 - Rosewill Line M
    * has 2 USB 3.0 ports on front panel
    * mesh front fan
    * toolless drive mounts
    * top mounted PSU

    Motherboards

    There is NO need to spend more money on a Z75/Z77 board if he's going to go with a non-K Intel processor. Especially if he has no plans on upgrading to a K processor and/or overclocking. With that in mind, his best (and cheaper) alternatives are:

    $70 - ASRock B75 PRO3-M
    * internal header for USB 3.0
    * 4 RAM slots (supports up to 32 GBs of DDR3-1600 RAM)
    * 3 x SATA 6/Gb ports (awesome to say the least at this price)
    * gigabit onboard NIC
    * microATX form factor

    $75 - ASRock B75 PRO3
    * full length ATX version of the above
    * extra PCI slots

    $75 - ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP
    * internal USB 3.0 header
    * 4 RAM slots (supports up to 32 GBs of DDR3-1600 RAM)
    * 4 x SATA 6/Gb ports (very nice)
    * gigabit onboard NIC
    * ATX form factor

    $85 - MSI H77MA-G43

    * internal USB 3.0 header
    * 4 RAM slots (supports up to 32 GBs of DDR3-1600 RAM)
    * 2 x SATA 6/Gb ports
    * gigabit onboard NIC
    * microATX form factor

    Everything else looks fine. Can't really save on other components without compromising on features. PSU wise you could save another $10-$20 if he was willing to forego modular feature and/or go with a 500W PSU instead of a 600W PSU.
    |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
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    • #3
      Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

      AMD fanboy to the rescue (even though I'm a traitor until the Steamroller's are released)

      For the budget he has, FX series CPUs are out of the question price wise. The best one's to get are the FX-8320 ($175) and FX-8350 ($200). As great as the FX-8350 is (I think it could beat a lot of the Intels on the market), you'd have to pair it with a really good board (like an ASUS Crosshair V or MSI 990FXA-GD80, which are $240 and $165 respectively), which would put it around $400 for the CPU/MOBO combo.

      A little outdated, but there's still a ton of people that use them.
      $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103727

      Or, you could go with the 6 core Phenom
      $100 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...262&CatId=4432

      I don't know a ton about the AMD APU series CPUs, but they provide good performance and low power usage.
      $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113280

      Like Acreo said, since overclocking isn't the biggest of concerns, newest chipset isn't a big priority, but I'll throw an option for one out there anyways.

      Motherboard options for the Phenoms:
      990 chipset (newest)
      $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157281

      970 chipset
      $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157364

      $68 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131872R

      I don't really know squat about the APUs since I really only get the dedicated gaming CPUs (like FX or Phenom), so I suggest doing some research there if he comes to the conclusion of using one and check places like http://www.tomshardware.com/ and http://benchmarkreviews.com/ and see what people are using to get the best results.

      Hope this all helps you.
      Last edited by mangeface; 05-12-2013, 03:56 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

        At this point I don't think it makes sense to push the older Athlon II and Phenom II processors anymore. There's no more room for improvement if you go that route and we're 2 generations into the newer AMD chips. The FX-8320 is probably the chip to get now if you were to do a AMD build. You'd save a bit more over Intel, take a bit of performance hit in games, and still end up with enough threaded processor power to tackle those apps that will make use of a multi-core CPU.
        |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
        TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
        Former 9th & 13th

        Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
        Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





        SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

        TG Primer and Rules

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        • #5
          Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

          Changes are in Bold

          How's this looking?

          Case: NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case --- 44.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146084

          Video Card: MSI N660 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card --- $214.99 -$20.00 Instant $194.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127699

          HDD: Western Digital WD Black WD5003AZEX 500GB 7200 RPM RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive --- $74.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822236345

          Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS -- 84.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157262

          Power Supply: CORSAIR CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply --$79.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139048

          RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL --- $64.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314

          CPU: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX --- 159.99
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103961

          New Total: $705
          |TG-6th|SirNerd

          My Resume includes Pirate, Mercenary, and a Devil Dog, what else do you want.

          Pain is Inevitable, Suffering is Optional.

          When you can't run anymore, you crawl and when you can't do that, you find someone to carry you.

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          • #6
            Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

            Why not spend the $15 more (<10% more) for the FX-8320? He would get about 10%-15% better framerates (more depending on game and settings) in most games over the FX-8120. Besides, he is spending on a new build, why not go for the latest chip when it's only a minor price increase?
            |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
            TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
            Former 9th & 13th

            Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
            Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





            SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

            TG Primer and Rules

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            • #7
              Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

              Would going from a 660 to 650 have a huge performance hit? It's a 50 dollar price difference. Or is there a better priced Radeon in the market?
              |TG-6th|SirNerd

              My Resume includes Pirate, Mercenary, and a Devil Dog, what else do you want.

              Pain is Inevitable, Suffering is Optional.

              When you can't run anymore, you crawl and when you can't do that, you find someone to carry you.

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              • #8
                Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

                Originally posted by Sir-Nerd View Post
                Would going from a 660 to 650 have a huge performance hit? It's a 50 dollar price difference. Or is there a better priced Radeon in the market?
                Maybe, but going from a 8120 to 8320 would have a huge performance gain. Do not, and I seriously mean it, DO NOT get a Zambezi CPU. I had an FX-8150 and it's a huge factor on why I got an i5-2500K. The newer Piledrivers are up to 25% better in stock performance.

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                • #9
                  Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

                  Originally posted by Sir-Nerd
                  Would going from a 660 to 650 have a huge performance hit? It's a 50 dollar price difference. Or is there a better priced Radeon in the market?
                  Given the price point is ~$200, you're not going to find a better card than the GTX 660. The closest Radeon would be the HD7850 which loses by 10%-15% in most games in terms of framerates. However, if you can find a HD7870 at $200, it would be a steal and worth every penny.

                  I think you meant going from a 660 to a 650 Ti? It's almost a 50% drop overall in performance. You're better off going with a HD7850 at point (or a HD7790).

                  GTX 660 vs. GTX 650 Ti
                  HD7850 vs. GTX 660

                  Originally posted by mangeface
                  Maybe, but going from a 8120 to 8320 would have a huge performance gain. Do not, and I seriously mean it, DO NOT get a Zambezi CPU. I had an FX-8150 and it's a huge factor on why I got an i5-2500K. The newer Piledrivers are up to 25% better in stock performance.
                  25% is really only the case in certain titles. If you look at the reviews posted around the 'net, 15% (which is what AMD was promising) seems to be the norm. With that in mind, that is 1-2% for every dollar you spend more on the Piledriver-based FX chips over the Bulldozer-based FX chips.
                  |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
                  TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
                  Former 9th & 13th

                  Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
                  Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





                  SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

                  TG Primer and Rules

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                  • #10
                    Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

                    Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
                    25% is really only the case in certain titles. If you look at the reviews posted around the 'net, 15% (which is what AMD was promising) seems to be the norm. With that in mind, that is 1-2% for every dollar you spend more on the Piledriver-based FX chips over the Bulldozer-based FX chips.
                    Yeah, that's why I said "up to". 15% is the norm, although I bet if I got a Piledriver it would pop 25% better than my Bulldozer. I'm sure I got a defective one, but it was still aggravating enough for me to dump it.

                    Anyways, in a super pissy mood as I just watched another game get robbed from my NBA team by those crooked ass refs the NBA uses and I'm starting a binge drinking session.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Build for a friend. Money saving Ideas?

                      Black and blue motherboard with red RAM? Save $2 and look better (to me at least). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226191

                      You could go with a bigger hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226191
                      Or stick with the WD Black (5yr warranty).
                      The WD Black 1TB is ony $20 more...

                      Something to think about.
                      Viking

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