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    I've discovered a new depth to the stupidity of windows 2000. I've just defragged my hard drive, and at the end a dialog box popped up to indicate the drive was fully defragged. The pretty colored bars in defrag suggest otherwise, as does the post-defrag report


    Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 10 %
    File fragmentation = 20 %
    Free space fragmentation = 0 %

    20% fragmentation doesn't fit my definition of a proper defrag. In the past, I've had 0% fragmentation from 2000, so why the sudden change, and more importantly, how to fix it?
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    Re: Dense defrag

    How much disk space do you have left or is free? Some big files might stay partially defraged in a few places.

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    • #3
      Re: Dense defrag

      Yeah, if tehre is not enough free space it can't defrag properly
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      • #4
        Re: Dense defrag

        I get the problem on all 3 of my windows partitions. The free space is :

        C: 5GB
        D: 10GB
        E: 7GB
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        • #5
          Re: Dense defrag

          To do a proper defrag, it needs a certain percentage of space, memory serving. It's like 10%. (ie, if you have a 100GB drive, you need 10GB free space to do a proper defrag) but could be as high as 20%. The only times I've had partial or "bad" defrags were from insufficient free space.
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          • #6
            Re: Dense defrag

            All my partitions exceed the % free space that defrag claims to require (15%)
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            • #7
              Re: Dense defrag

              Try using one of the freeware or shareware defraging programs. They might work better than the standard Win2000 one.

              http://www.download.com/O-O-Defrag-P...ml?tag=lst-0-2
              http://www.download.com/Power-Defrag...ml?tag=lst-0-1
              http://www.download.com/Mst-Defrag-H...ml?tag=lst-0-8

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              • #8
                Re: Dense defrag

                Thanks. I'll give one of them a try.
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                • #9
                  Re: Dense defrag

                  Diskeeper 7.0

                  Its an old version, but its freeware. Always leaves me with 0% fragmentation.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Dense defrag

                    I've been using PerfectDisk for years now. I keep it loaded in the background. It takes up very little memory and I have it run weekly to defrag all my drives. It claims to defrag in one pass and does a tremendous job. And if you have a network, you can schedule defrags across the network.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Dense defrag

                      Windows defrag isn't that great. You can have 50% of your drive free and it still won't defrag your drive very well at all. It can't defrag your drive properly under ANY circumstances.

                      Kormendi recommends Diskkeeper 7.0. I agree with him. It will actually do the job properly.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Dense defrag

                        Originally posted by Apophis View Post
                        Windows defrag isn't that great. You can have 50% of your drive free and it still won't defrag your drive very well at all. It can't defrag your drive properly under ANY circumstances.

                        Kormendi recommends Diskkeeper 7.0. I agree with him. It will actually do the job properly.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Dense defrag

                          I've also had good experiences with Diskkeeper.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Dense defrag

                            One of the big problems with the windows defrag is that if something tries to access the disk it will restart. You have to shutdown ALL programs running (including the screensaver) before running the defrag.

                            I've never used diskeeper but I think I will give it a go sometime.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Dense defrag

                              Originally posted by Apophis View Post
                              Windows defrag isn't that great. You can have 50% of your drive free and it still won't defrag your drive very well at all. It can't defrag your drive properly under ANY circumstances.

                              Kormendi recommends Diskkeeper 7.0. I agree with him. It will actually do the job properly.

                              I've always found this somewhat amusing :D

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