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  • Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

    Well I'm venturing into the world of building my own PC. I've never done this before but I love researching parts, however i have difficulty when it comes to the things mentioned in my topic. I simply don't know enough to make an educated decision on these parts. I will tell you what I want so far, but remember I'm on a budget, can't spend more than about $1700.

    What I want to get

    -Core 2 Duo 6400 = $230

    -Radeon ATI X1900XTX 512MB = $300

    -VX 922 Viewsonic 19'' monitor = $250

    Total = $780

    Can spend about $900 more

    So if you have an educated opinion of what I should purchase, I would be obliged to read it.
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough”
    Einstein

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    Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

    Here's what I bought for the system I built a month ago (same CPU as yours). So far I haven't had any problems at all.

    Hard drive, $90:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148139

    PSU, $80:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817812002

    Motherboard, $150:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128018

    RAM (2GB), $189:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145040
    If you don't plan on overclocking, you can get DDR2 533 memory instead.



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    • #3
      Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

      I would say, looks good so far.

      Mostly, go by brand and read reviews. For things like ram, brands like Corsair and OCZ are popular. The key item to watch with ram is its"timings" which generally look something like "2-2-2-8". Smaller #'s the better.

      Most of my builds are AMD, so I'm not familiar enough with current intel boards to recommend anything on that front, but I'm sure somebody else here can.

      Power supply will be key here. Stick with something reputable, and don't be afraid to spend a little money. FSP, Antec, pcp&c are a few good brands. The difference between a bad PSU and a good PSU can be anything from improved performance (due to good PSU's having steady, more powerful rails) to worst-case scenario protection. I can't begin to count the number of PC's I've worked on where a blown crap generic PSU took out the CPU, ram, mobo and video card with it. A good quality PSU has a much higher chance of saving your expensive internal components during a massive failure. Don't forget surge protection though. Lightning is nasty no matter what you got plugged in ;).

      Stuff you have so far looks good to me. Honestly, for $1700, you should be able to build a really nice top-shelf type PC if you shop in the right places.
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        Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

        I built a beast and it came out to only $1500, so I would say you could easily build that with some room to spare. I would actually go for the widescreen 20 incher instead of the 19, but thats personal opinion after being stuck on a 17 inch for so long.

        Here's the one I built, but it was AMD based. It's got a X1900 in it plus 2 gigs of ram. You would have to find a diffrent Mobo to support the Core Duo.

        https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...asp?ID=3707283

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        • #5
          Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

          In my haste of posting this topic I forgot to add in the fact that i need a case
          "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough”
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          • #6
            Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

            Alright I'm liking the Hard Drive and the motherboard, but I'm still at a lost when it comes to memory. I want two 1 gig sticks and the board says they need to be DDR2 800, but on average that will run me 300 dollars? Is this normal to pay that much? Here's what I'm looking at now tell me what you think. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
            "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough”
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            • #7
              Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

              If you don't plan on overclocking, then DDR2 533 will be in sync w/ FSB clock cycles (266MHz by default). DDR2 800 will only reach its full potential if you overclock the FSB to 400MHz.



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              • #8
                Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

                Originally posted by Anubis_Maximus View Post
                Alright I'm liking the Hard Drive and the motherboard, but I'm still at a lost when it comes to memory. I want two 1 gig sticks and the board says they need to be DDR2 800, but on average that will run me 300 dollars? Is this normal to pay that much? Here's what I'm looking at now tell me what you think. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
                I'm not sure if the later BIOS versions for the DS3 have fixed the memory voltage issue. Corsair will work with the DS3 because it requires 1.9V. Some brands of DDR2-800, like OCZ, require 2.1V during boot and didn't work with the DS3 because it didn't get enough voltage. Like tau said, you don't have to get DDR2-800 if you're not overclocking.

                I bought a Seasonic S12 500W for my new Core 2 rig. It's also been a highly rated PSU along with FSP and Antec.

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                  Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

                  So DDR 2 533 will still work with that board, even tho it says specifacally DDR2 800?
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                    Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

                    Originally posted by Anubis_Maximus View Post
                    So DDR 2 533 will still work with that board, even tho it says specifacally DDR2 800?
                    Yes. It's basically saying it will support RAM with speed up to DDR2 800 (PC2 6400).



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                    • #11
                      Re: Several Questions regarding PSU, Hard Drives, Memory, and Motherboards.

                      I got this monitor for $100 after rebate. Its great.
                      http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductD...24FB021547F4A2

                      I used this article to figure what memory I wanted for core 2 duo.
                      http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...ddr2-1000.html
                      I only buy Cosair because of there tech support and great forum.

                      I got the gigabye MB. It works good. I don't overclock anymore do to things going very bad one time. If you do want to try overclocking then the case, airflow and heatsink or watercooling becomes very important.

                      If your not overclocking, good airflow and quiet are something to shoot for. So any case with 2 x120mm fans should work. I hate whiny little fans. The c2d deosn't get very hot stock.

                      I use a Zelman heatsink, but there are others that are just as good. Also invest in some arctic silver thermal grease.
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118223

                      I like Enermax PSUs. The last one I got was the Liberty 500w.

                      I would also get one Raptor 150 gb HD and some 7200 sataII drives for storage. Everything I've read says the Raptor in raid is a little overkill for the home user.

                      Also if you want to really protect your investment you should get an ups to protect it from fluctuations in power. The power grid where I live is so bad I burned out 4 video cards in one year until I got an ups. I use mine for a monitor, comp, router, and modem. Make sure you get one with a rating that can handle all the components your going to put through it.

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