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  • Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

    Playing BF2 with TG was awesome until the 1.3 patch, fun and enjoyment had their throats cut after that. Not being able to hit anything because your frame rates are lower then hell is not fun for me. So I had to go back to the only fun and playable game I had, Day of Defeat Source. I love that game, but I have been playing it since it came out and I miss playing with the TG crew.

    I have a $1500usd budget for a new gaming computer (I will go as high as $2000 if need be). I already have the monitor, mouse, keyboard, and OS. I have been looking at Tom’s Hardware’s System Builder Marathon 2 http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/...d_cost_system/, and will use that as a starting point. I will be mostly using this computer for gaming but I also edit pictures and movies so that might have to be taken into consideration. (A second large hard drive?)

    Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2.40GHz
    Motherboard: MSI P6N SLI Platinum

    RAM: 2x 1GB PDP Patriot Extreme Performance PC2-6400 Low Latency
    Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5000YS
    (Should I get two of these, or a different brand?)
    Graphics Card: EVGA 8800GTX
    Power Supply: AeroCool Zerodba 620W

    CPU Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme w/ Scythe SFF21F fan
    Computer Case: Thermaltake Armor w/ 25cm side fanhttp://www.thermaltake.com/product/C.../va8003bws.asp (I like this one over the one that Tom’s Hardware picked.)
    Optical Drive: Sony NEC Optiarc 7170 SATA


    The CPU cooler looks like overkill, but I’m thinking about over clocking this system, should I keep it? (Just a small amount of over clocking)

    They also have a nVidia nForce onboard Gigabit Ethernet NIC for their networking, what is that and do I need it?

    Is there anything that I’m missing, should I replace something with another product?


    I'm new to this computer building business so suggestions are wanted, thanks for everything guys.

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    Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

    Originally posted by Lt.Snow View Post



    The CPU cooler looks like overkill, but I’m thinking about over clocking this system, should I keep it? (Just a small amount of over clocking)

    They also have a nVidia nForce onboard Gigabit Ethernet NIC for their networking, what is that and do I need it?

    Is there anything that I’m missing, should I replace something with another product?


    I'm new to this computer building business so suggestions are wanted, thanks for everything guys.
    Think to yourself: What games are you looking forward to in the next year? What games are you playing now? You could save 150 on the video card buy going to an 8600GTS. It's what I have. While it is not 256-bit, DX10 support and a reliable card make it worth while. I'm playing Source games on Max, BF2 PR at medium only for frames, Vegas on High, and Bioshock on High. Crysis should run at a good frame too.

    GREAT cooling is something alot of people should invest in. If you're thinking about clocking on a moderate level, you'll need it. I beleive you'll find the NIC useful if you plan on building a home network.

    Also...about the pictures and movies. I just bought an external 250GB HDD at best buy for 70 dollars. Right now its just backup, but I can keep all my music, pictures, and movies there without any worry.
    Skud


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    • #3
      Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

      I wouldn't go lower than a 8800GTS but some of depends on the resolution you'd like to run games.

      Gigabit Ethernet isn't necessary. You'll need a Gigabit router to take advantage of it and other computers hooked up with Gigabit to really take advantage of it. Although, a lot of new mobos come with Gigabit LAN so don't worry about it.

      It would be good to have 2 harddrives when you're doing video/image editing. It's really awesome when you're recording game footage. Try reusing your old drives if you can but a 320GB and a 500GB drive would be a good match up if you can't afford 2x500GB. HD space is pretty cheap now and you can always use the space.

      You can overclock a bit on stock cooling. The Thermalright 120 is for extreme overclocking on air cooling. I've done some on stock cooling and it's really not that bad. You can always try it out and see if it's enough cooling for you.

      - It's who you game with.

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      • #4
        Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

        Well if you are going to overclock, I would suggest changing your motherboard. Here's some excellent choices. I myself just purchased the Abit IP35-E and it's an overclocking champ.

        http://www.techspot.com/article/61-i...board-roundup/

        And yeah I was going to suggest that cooler you have listed, or the Tuniq Tower 120. Everything else looks good.

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        • #5
          Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

          How big is that WD hard drive? You only mentioned the model number.

          A suggestion when you're putting the parts together:

          Make sure you put in the motherboard stand-offs and the I/O port backplate in first before you put in the motherboard. After you put in your mobo, put in your CPU next. Make sure you don't force it in or push down at all (you'll bend the pins on the 775 socket (no longer on the chip like the older chips). When putting on your heatsink, you'll have to apply a bit of force to get the pins into the holes (was a pain for me). Don't worry about breaking your mobo, dad assures me those silicon boards take a lot of strength to break or even crack.

          Memory should go next. The rest I'm sure you can figure out.
          |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
          TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
          Former 9th & 13th

          Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
          Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





          SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

          TG Primer and Rules

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          • #6
            Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

            Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
            How big is that WD hard drive? You only mentioned the model number.
            Sorry it's a 500GB hard drive, I will get two of them, and I'm going with the 8800GTS to save a little bit of money.
            I plan on playing some TF2 and Call of Duty 4 in the future. Thanks for the motherboard suggestions jmaker and thanks to everyone else for all of the help.

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            • #7
              Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

              CoD4 should run great on the GTS.

              I've never used Intel, but does it have any good free software? AMD has dashboard and some other nifty tools for OC'ing.
              Skud


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              • #8
                Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                There are a few apps for monitoring temps for Intel processors. You don't really need any other software for OC'ing. You pretty much go into the BIOS and raise the FSB by an insane amount (a joke since C2D's overclock high) and make sure the RAM divider is setting your RAM to an acceptable speed.

                - It's who you game with.

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                • #9
                  Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                  I almost have everything ready to order, just a few questions that have been bothering me.

                  1. There are a lot of choices for a EVGA 8800GTS, I want the best 8800GTS that I can get from the store I'm making my purchase. The choices: http://www.directcanada.com/search/?kw=EVGA%208800GTS (Superclocked or KO ACS3 edition?)

                  2. The power supply I was looking to get is not available on the store Iím buying from, which power supply would you recommend from their site? http://www.directcanada.com/category/?minorcatid=1308 Also what brands should I stay away from?



                  Thanks again guys, I canít wait to place my order.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                    You could scale back on the size of your hard drive and spend that on a better video card.

                    That Direct Canada listing looks a lot like NewEgg's listing.

                    Some of the brands on there are fine. The only ones I would keep away from are the following: AeroCool, Ahanix, Apevia, Apex, Enhance, Enlight, EPowerTec, Estasis, Gigabyte (too new in the PSU field), Kingwin, Koolance, Logisys, and several others.

                    Here's a better guide on which brands to avoid: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=458204
                    |TG-18th| Acreo Aeneas
                    TG World of Tanks Clan Executive Officer
                    Former 9th & 13th

                    Pronounciation: Eh-Cree-Oh Ah-Nay-Ess
                    Still can't say it? Call me Acorn then. -.-





                    SSDs I Own: Kingston HyperX 3K (240 GB), Samsung 840 Pro (256 GB), Samsung 840 EVO (250 GB), Samsung 840 x 2 (120 GB), Plextor M5S (120 GB), OCZ Vertex (30 GB)

                    TG Primer and Rules

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                      Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
                      You could scale back on the size of your hard drive and spend that on a better video card.
                      I'm thinking about one of these hard drives: http://www.directcanada.com/products...TERN%20DIGITAL to help save some money. Would anyone recommend this hard drive? I have a 500GB external hard drive (almost full) to help me if I need more memory.


                      Thanks guys.
                      Last edited by Lt.Snow; 10-06-2007, 06:26 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                        The superclocked 8800GTS will be fine. The other version has different cooling that really caters to those that want to overclock the GPU.

                        - It's who you game with.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                          The KO ASC3 Rings a bell...thats for sure.

                          The 7900 KO was probably one of the best cards ever produced by Nvidia.

                          But that seems out of your range.

                          And while I may be only spelling out an opinion, any 8800 Card is going to be very powerful for the next year and a half. Even after that, I really dont think you'll be doing an upgrade to your video card for at least 2 years.
                          Skud


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                          • #14
                            Re: Help with new computer decisions: The road to tactical gaming.

                            Ok, I think I have everything in order. My soon-to-be PC:

                            Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2.40GHz http://www.directcanada.com/products...ufacture=INTEL
                            Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro ATX http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=ABIT
                            RAM: Patriot Extreme Performance 2X1GB PC2-6400 http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=PATRIOT
                            Hard Drive: Western Digital SE16 500GB http://www.directcanada.com/products...TERN%20DIGITAL
                            Graphics Card: EVGA 8800GTX Superclocked http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=EVGA
                            Power Supply: Antec Truepower Quattro 850W http://www.directcanada.com/products...ufacture=ANTEC
                            CPU Cooler: Thermalright ULTIMA-90 http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=THERMALRIGHT
                            Scythe S-Flex 120mm Fan http://www.directcanada.com/products...facture=SCYTHE
                            Computer Case: Thermaltake Armor w/ 25cm Fan http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=THERMALTAKE
                            Optical Drive: Samsung SH-S183L w/ Lightscribe http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=SAMSUNG

                            Total Price:$1800ish

                            Suggestions and opinions wanted. Thank you for all of the help guys.

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