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    Any recommendations for the best and easiest parent control software... I've already used net nanny but you either have to be tough with the restrictions or not, not much of a in between...

    I have 2 kids, by X-mas both will have PC's in there rooms... ya I know, not really a good idea but anyway... I want a software program that I can control there time on, preferably via my PC (on our home network), and to know who and what is being said to each other or posted in there myspace etc ect... you know spy software, which I hate to do, but it is a parents necessity IMO...

    any opinions, ideas?

    thx
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  • #2
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    I've heard good things about http://www.bsafehome.com/

    Bsafe has also teamed up with McAfee, so you can get the parental control software with McAfee's security suite for $70. Not a bad deal...
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    • #3
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      For the myspace stuff... that's a huge breach of privacy. You'll need a keylogger to get their account information. I don't know where to get one but I'm pretty sure parental control software wouldn't have that sort of feature. I suggest keeping an eye on the public profile so you can see what's being posted there. Also, play the high-low game with your kids if you aren't already. It's about 5 minutes at the end of the day and you ask the high and low of the day.

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      • #4
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        Honestly, I can't say I support the idea, but if you must...

        I don't think you have to worry about programs or what they say. But who they talk to.

        :-/

        Had enough exp with it already.
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        • #5
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          I suggest you'd run a quick search because I remember there had already been a topic about this in the Hardware & Software Disc. I can't remember everything but I think one which was mentioned was NetSupport School. I used it to freak my little brother out once and it worked pretty well

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Concr3te View Post
            I suggest you'd run a quick search because I remember there had already been a topic about this in the Hardware & Software Disc. I can't remember everything but I think one which was mentioned was NetSupport School. I used it to freak my little brother out once and it worked pretty well
            We've had similar discussions a couple of times:

            http://www.tacticalgamer.com/hardwar...ld-safety.html

            http://www.tacticalgamer.com/hardwar...-software.html
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            • #7
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              If you can't trust them with the internet, they shouldn't have it. That simple. Keylogging sounds silly to me -- being able to "get into" the squirt's accounts doesn't really do anything but help you snoop. If you're suspicious enough to justify snooping, then you can just order they log-in for you, or you banhammer 'em from it. Weak-handedness has never been a successful parenting technique.

              I don't know of any off-hand, but what you need is a system that blocks everything except what you put on a white-list. It'll be slow-going at first to allow the permissible sites, but the blacklist system will never work since there's always a way around it. (Already, what good is blocking a site when you can probably get at the Google cache of it?) Also, just say no to Myspace. It's not cool.

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              • #8
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                Easiest way IMHO, load remote management software that will allow remote viewing. You could also let them know you have it and it might be a power dissuasion knowing that you could be looking over the shoulder at any moment in time. Or you could be lazy and cheap and get a google up a Trojan and install on their PC's to do the same thing. Only problem is getting around your AV software.
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                • #9
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                  Another thing to checkout, assuming you install FireFox as the default web-browser, is a plugin called slogger: http://www.kenschutte.com/slogger/. You can configure it, but basically, it will record (save a local copy of) any page the browser displays. You can have it save the full page, images and all, or just the text. You can also configure where it saves stuff (i.e. to a networked drive on your PC). It's basically 'instant replay' for the web-browser.

                  Of course, this isn't a "spying" tool per-se, as it's not hidden and can be disabled directly in the browser - BUT, it's not obvious what it is, so if they're not tech savy (installing/uninstalling stuff, messing w/ plugins, changing config preferences, etc), they probably won't even notice it's there.

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                  • #10
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                    This is a repeat of my answer to a similar post referenced above:

                    I run a program called Spectorsoft Pro on my son's computer and check what he's looking at every week or so. Here's a linky for it: http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/...sp?refer=12080

                    At $100 it isn't cheap but there isn't anything he's doing that isn't captured. It does not allow for remote monitoriing or interface.

                    He's 15, a good boy, in ROTC, doing well in school...but it just makes sense to be cautious. He's not doing anything bad but has surfed some porn sites occaisionally. I had a talk with him about how porn stars arent real life...he seemed to get it. I asked him not to look at porn on his machine and he hasn't since. At 15 I knew I'd find something like that and frankly I was more worried about drugs than anything else...thankfully drugs are not not an issue.

                    I was mulling over filter vs. stealth and chose stealth because A. he'd probably find ways to beat the filter and B. he'd act like he knew he was being watched which wouldn't give me an accurate picture...I don't know why I went into all this detail but thought I'd share my experiences...
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                    • #11
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                      "I had a talk with him about how porn stars arent real life."
                      And then you directed him toward sites with non-plastic women, yes?

                      Continuing to play Devil's Advocate, $100 of software is defeated by 25 of plastic, since the rise of bootable OSes mean a Knoppix or Ubuntu disk circumvents anything that isn't wholly independent hardware, like an inline keylogger. And with a spare keyboard handy, that fails as well.

                      Which brings us to hidden cameras, then to paranoia, and then to drugs to silence the in-my-head voices.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Parent control software...

                        Originally posted by MagnaCentipede View Post
                        "I had a talk with him about how porn stars arent real life."
                        And then you directed him toward sites with non-plastic women, yes?

                        Continuing to play Devil's Advocate, $100 of software is defeated by 25 of plastic, since the rise of bootable OSes mean a Knoppix or Ubuntu disk circumvents anything that isn't wholly independent hardware, like an inline keylogger. And with a spare keyboard handy, that fails as well.

                        Which brings us to hidden cameras, then to paranoia, and then to drugs to silence the in-my-head voices.
                        You got to understand. The goal isn't to prevent them from doing anything bad. Most sane parents know that their kids will get away with stuff. The goal is to let them know that we, as parents, are going to watch over them.

                        There is a difference between spying and watching over them. Often the traits of the two overlap but the difference is what the goal is.

                        You are right when you suggest all technology can be circumvented. But I think basic parenting practices dictate that we use some technology to achieve the desired goals.
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                        • #13
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                          You do that by popping into the room and yelling out whatever's on their screen. And even if there's nothing on there, yell NUDIES! anyway. Kids live for the unexpected HAY GUYS WUTS GOIN ON IN THIS THREAD!.

                          Actually, the route I'd go with is to simply log URLs. You can probably have a router do that. Print it off every Tuesday and check for anything that might be inappropriate, dispensing a lashing for each URL on the list that doesn't look right.

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                          • #14
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                            Dear TG parents,

                            I think that the first thing we must do as parents, is to talk and discuss with our kids and try to educate them, regarding the use and the possible threats of the Internet. We as parents, should enforce and foster a "Mutual Respect Internet Use Agreement" with our kids. Don't rely solely on a software and park your kids in front of the PC. Do your supervisory obligations. Be there with them if possible. If they want privacy, it's OK, but tell them that everything on the Internet could be traced down and their actions could be reveal.

                            Tell them that your role is not to police them, but to educate and prevent them from possible abuse. Tell them about the possible threats and abuse from other Inernet users and that you are there for them, if support is needed. Be true, tell them that you respect their need for privacy but you will take some preventive measures to protect them, and you will see that your kids will accept it. Tell them that you trust them and tell them that you know they will report back to you any odd issues thay may experience. Tell them that you respect their privacy, but also tell them that you can break this privacy at anytime and see everything. Tell them that you will do so, not to control their Internet life, but to control and prevent the "outsiders" actions. Kids are rebels, they don't want controls, but unconsciously they like to feel safe and have that "sense of protection" from their parents. They will accept it, trust me.

                            I have kids, 2 boys, 7 and 9 years old.

                            They do not have a dedicated PC yet, I give them my old laptop when needed. Internet, PC games, TV and DVD's are not allowed during the week, exept if they need the Internet for school work. They don't have much free time during the week anyway...
                            At weekends, when they ask for it, we are there surfing along with them.

                            As they will grow up and the use of the Internet will be mandatory, I think I will use some kind of software to prevent threats and log their actions. This thread has some good software posted for this job. Use a software that gives you the best all around protection (virus, spy, chat, mail) and a software that logs and reports activity and content. Then use a weekly report to see what is going on.

                            However, nothing can substitute the role of parents.

                            That is to educate, communicate and support. And (mutual) trust...

                            If the kids don't trust us or we do not trust them, then we have failed.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Parent control software...

                              Originally posted by Grunt 70 View Post
                              I asked him not to look at porn on his machine and he hasn't since. At 15 I knew I'd find something like that and frankly I was more worried about drugs than anything else...thankfully drugs are not not an issue.
                              LOL! At 15, I was already sneaking into strip clubs and peep shows. Hiding the Playboy amongst other magazines was what I did when I was 9 or 10 years old... I would find it difficult to believe that he doesn't have some other source to view nekkid wimmin.

                              Then again, I talk to people all the time that find it hard to believe that I've never used any illegal drugs. <shrug>

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