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  • Another new rig announcement.

    Here I just finished building my newest machine:

    Antec P190 case - a minimum 4 fan, 50 pound monster with sound damping and 2 PSUs.
    Gigabyte P35-DS3R mobo with the new 45nm E8400 CPU at 3GHz.
    2 GB RAM.
    500GB Seagate perpendicular recording HDD for the OS and the previous 500GB Hitachi documents HDD for photos, and a 160GB HDD for installation of XP.
    My trusty 8800GTS 640MB GPU.
    An ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler.

    I installed Vista on it and it works very nice. So far only one bluescreen after I turned the IDE controllers into AHCI mode. You have to change something in the registry, install the drivers and if the planets are correctly aligned it works.

    I also found a registry patch that lets you install Vista SP1 final, and it installed beautifully.

    My wife now has my old Opteron 170 box and is happy about having to install all her applications again ;-)

    Now if only the crane would arrive so I could get it downstairs.

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    Re: Another new rig announcement.

    Great system man, but why on earth did you spend that much on a case with 2 PSU's. I really like that case, and talk nonstop about how good my p182 is, but all that power is completly wasted on a rig that would draw about 500-600 max.
    Don't get me wrong, like I said I like the case, but seems like mad overkill on something you joked about needing a crane to move, even though you actually do need a forklift.

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    • #3
      Re: Another new rig announcement.

      I think it's time I give up trying to convince people it's a waste of their money. If people want to believe in inflated power requirements, fine by me. (Pardon my negativity. People just seem to spend the extra money on parts they don't need as if those parts are really needed or will give them magically better performance over similar rigs.)

      In this case, someone thought the redundant PSU case/design that served backbone datacenters would be a "cool" idea for gaming rigs.

      Otherwise, your system looks great. Another high-end rig where this forum section has seem quite of few high-end rigs of late.

      Just don't move that case around...your system weighs in at probably around 70-80 pounds with everything in there and that Arctic Tower Cooler. (The P180 is 35 pounds empty...so the P190 with parts is gotta be very heavy.)
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      • #4
        Re: Another new rig announcement.

        ya my p180 is empty until my parts come but it is a heavy little monster, i looked into the p190, i wish i would come with a psu-free version instead of the -1200 (the wattage)
        great build, post some benchmarks!
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        • #5
          Re: Another new rig announcement.

          1200W is certainly overkill. I think it will probably use 350W normally - once I measure it with the kill-a-watt. I got it because it was "on sale" for $300, and it is quiet and seems to be high quality.
          CPU temps stay under 50C under load.
          What are the interesting benchmarks? PCMark?

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          • #6
            Re: Another new rig announcement.

            1200W...I could use one of those to power my house.

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            • #7
              Re: Another new rig announcement.

              You should probably disconnect one of the PSUs. Doing so will save some energy so you don't pop your eyes out looking at the next power bill (exaggeration :p).

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              • #8
                Re: Another new rig announcement.

                well, dont psu's only consume what is needed? if you have a 1200watt psu, its not using 1200 constantly right? it only consumes what the computer calls for?
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                • #9
                  Re: Another new rig announcement.

                  That somewhat depends on the quality of the PSU, like its efficiency.

                  People are really starting to pay attention to that now. A crap psu with like 65% efficiency will use more power to do the same thing as a quality PSU with 85% efficiency.

                  Of course that it also runs hotter and you have to keep your house AC turned up even in winter to keep from sweating in your computer room. :)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another new rig announcement.

                    Try not put place all your computers in one room (like me). It's a great way to heat half the house, but the computer room is unbearable after about 5 hours with every machine in it running.

                    85% efficiency just means that if your PSU draws in 400W of power, it uses 340W in powering your components and the other 60W is wasted as heat generated from the components inside the PSU. So basically, the more power hungry (or high end) your system is and the cheaper the PSU you go with, the more power it draws in and the more heat it generates as a result.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Another new rig announcement.

                      great explaination acreo! makes alot of sense, so if a psu (name brand.. not cheapy) is rated at 1000watt, is that how much it draws, or how much it produces, does it produce 850watt and draw 1000, (assuming it is 85% efficient) or does it draw 1150(yes my brain math is horrible) and produce 1000
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                      • #12
                        Re: Another new rig announcement.

                        It is kind of like that, but a little more complicated.
                        Say you had a really good PSU, like my Corsair, that is rated at 620watts. Neweggs doesn't list the effeciency, but I have read many reviews that says it is extremely efficent, to the point that it puts out more than 620 watts it says on the box.

                        But with a cheap psu, it is more like what is above, where it draws in say 1000 watts, but only puts out X ammount in real life, with the rest turning to heat. And as with all things computer wise, the hotter it gets, the less efficient it gets, and the watts go down.

                        So the box may claim say 500 watts, and it may put out close to that, like 475 watts, when it first boots up the system, but once it heats up and you start gaming, your watts drop to like 400. Then you start wondering why your FPS start droping (the graf. card is powering down because it is starved for power) or your computer ups and crashes to desktop or worse, all together.

                        Even worse is when a cheap psu just up and decides to fry your system. Might send a huge surge of power just to make sure some parts get extra crispy. :(

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another new rig announcement.

                          I stay right at 46*C under load with my Antec Nine Hundred case and my Ultra 750W modular PSU and the same processor, 2 Raptors, one 500Gb storage drive and the 8800GT. I too think the 2 PSU's were an overkill. Shoot, a lot of people have told me that the Antec case I have was overkill with the 200mm fan on top of it. I think it was money well spent though. I guess it is all in the eye of the person that built the system, if they are happy with it I guess that is all that matters.
                          So far I am liking my Ultra PSU, I have had 2 so far(this new rig I built and my old one) and they seem to be pretty good. I have read a lot of reviews on them and they also seem to have good to great reviews from other users. I believe Ultra is slowly gaining popularity for having good PSU's. I still wonder why so many people consider them to be "Cheap" as far as quality? The quality of the PSU is what matters, not the actual price tag. Of course everybody knows you get what you pay for though, price wise the Ultra's aren't cheap or expensive, I think they are competetive with other PSU manufacturers that are in the higher price bracket.

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