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    Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

    It has taken a while, but Microsoft has finally acknowledged that 64-bit Windows Vista PCs are finally ready to go mainstream.

    In a tentative post at the official Windows Vista Blog, Microsoft's Chris Flores states that "there appears to be a shift taking place in the PC industry: the move from 32-bit to 64-bit PCs."

    According to Flores, Microsoft has been tracking the growth of 64-bit PCs connected to Windows Update and there has been a substantial increase. In the last three months, the number of 64-bit Windows Vista PCs is said to have tripled in the US. Worldwide adoption is said to have doubled and 64-bit Windows Vista is growing much more rapidly than 32-bit, he adds.

    Flores states that consumers now realise the benefits of 4GiB of memory or more. Though, stepping carefully, he adds that "if you only use your PC for a few tasks, and rarely do them at the same time, then you're unlikely to realise a measurable performance benefit today."

    As a closing statement, he adds: "In the future, we expect both compatibility and performance of 64-bit PCs to continue to improve. Most hardware devices have 64-bit drivers today and most software products work unmodified because of the 32-bit emulation technology in 64-bit Windows Vista (called WOW64). But there are some gaps, especially in the long tail of the market, but we expect rapid improvement now that 64-bit PCs are getting so popular."

    There we have it, folks, Windows Vista 64-bit is now officially "ready". All we need now is Microsoft's own software such as Silverlight and various Live applications to support its 64-bit operating systems.

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    Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

    I wonder if TG has been a significant contributor...
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      Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

      Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
      I wonder if TG has been a significant contributor...
      Maybe, but with the OS switch from XP to vista, I suspect it's more along the lines of most PC builders using 64-bit vista because there's no appreciable difference in setup on our end for a 32-bit or 64-bit machine and it's "better" than 32-bit in that it can use more ram, has a bigger number which leads to better sales, etc.
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      • #4
        Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

        Another article about it just posted

        http://cybernetnews.com/2008/07/31/6...e-on-the-rise/

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        • #5
          Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

          Frankly, I don't see any reason to switch from a perfectly stable and secured WinXP OS to a unstable, resource-hungry and insecure Vista OS, let alone a 64-Bit one, were still many applications won't run.

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          • #6
            Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

            Originally posted by Nathrael View Post
            Frankly, I don't see any reason to switch from a perfectly stable and secured WinXP OS to a unstable, resource-hungry and insecure Vista OS, let alone a 64-Bit one, were still many applications won't run.
            Grrr....get him Bamboo. Have you ever used Vista? Please people, stop with the Vista bashing.

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            • #7
              Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

              Originally posted by jmaker View Post
              Grrr....get him Bamboo. Have you ever used Vista? Please people, stop with the Vista bashing.
              Sorry, but Vista IS inferior to XP (unlike you want a lot of eyecandies, then, Vista is ok to you, but why sacrifice performance and compatibility for better graphics?). I primarily use Windows because it is a great gaming platform; if I wouldn't play games, I'd have a Mac or *NIX-OS running instead of Windows. But now, on the new Windows OS, there aren't only a lot of built-in spyware mechanisms, but if you want to play games on it, especially older ones, you have to face a lot of issues. It was already hard to get System Shock 2 running on my DualCore WinXP OS, I bet it isn't even possible to run it under Vista (or at least much more work than under XP). There are a lot of driver issues too; and as said, everything that Vista can except for the indeed nice looking GUI, XP can do too and usually can do it better.

              Oh, and yes, I used Vista. Not for very long and not on my PC, but I did use it.

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                Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                Edit: Decided to do a PM instead. :)
                Last edited by Acreo Aeneas; 07-31-2008, 07:48 PM.
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                • #9
                  Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                  @Nathrael

                  Please check your forum sig.

                  It is way over the forum size limit both in physical size and file size.

                  Please fix it so a moderator doesn't have to yank it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                    nathrael: none of your arguments are valid. sorry. I turn off the eye candy in vista on one computer because it is solely for live video - but I think it only helps 1-2%. I prefer Vista over xp at this point. - mostly because it is now MORE compatible and FASTER than XP in a lot of situations. XP is a dog about giving up memory to applications - whereas Vista is a champ. Now that software vendors are spending the majority of their time coding for Vista, XP is fast becoming the harder OS to use. and BTW, I have a whole bunch of obscure and obsolete hardware - it ALL works with vista (and 95% of it works with x64.)
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                    • #11
                      Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                      Sorry, but Vista IS inferior to XP
                      That's my favorite part. So by your logic Windows 95 was inferior to Windows 3.1, and Windows 2000 was inferior to Windows 95. And of course Windows XP was inferior to Windows 2000. Your opinion is that Vista is inferior to XP.

                      Just stop capitalizing "IS" as if that statement were true. Are you one of those people from the Mojave Experiment? You even claim you hardly used Vista at all and not even on your own PC. Spending 5 minutes on one those crappy display computers at Best Buy does not count as actual Vista use.

                      Hey continue to use XP. I'm not knocking on anyone who still uses it. I loved it for the time I was on it. What we Vista users are getting sick of is the fact that people continue to bash on it, without merit, when in reality those people have never even used it, or have hardly spent significant time with it. There are no issues with it playing games. I can't attest to any older games, since all games I have are mostly new.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                        im getting as irritated as bamboo
                        Originally posted by Nathrael View Post
                        Frankly, I don't see any reason to switch from a perfectly stable and secured WinXP OS to a unstable, resource-hungry and insecure Vista OS, let alone a 64-Bit one, were still many applications won't run.
                        i went from my bsod happy, crash happy, xp pro 32bit to a completely stable, problematic free 64 bit vista, and i absolutely love it, and when i get on an xp machine, i hate it... vista isnt resource happy, it simply takes what is free, to make it faster, your ram has nothing better to do when you are idle, the keyword being IDLE, meaning you arent doing anything with it at idle... if you start a program, it will dump the resources it has in the ram that isnt necessary ( start menu is instant and doesnt have to be loaded from hard drive, along with right click menu, and my computer folder, web page tabs... all in memory so u dont have to wait 1-3 seconds for it to be queued from the hard drive)

                        oh, and btw... pre win2000 software tends to work better on vista than xp


                        why are people soooooo scared of change

                        the change to XP was more horrid for driver problems
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                        • #13
                          Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                          I never said that I do not like Vista's GUI, actually I think it's pretty nice to look at and maybe also to use, but it's horribly resource hungry, and I just think that there are better ways to use those resources than for a shiny GUI, and that it's a little bit strange that I have to buy 3 or 4 Gigs of RAM when I can run applications on the same speed under WinXP with 2 Gigs of RAM.

                          As for compatibility and drivers: many applications written for XP and also a lot of programs written for older OSes just don't work. Yes, you are right, that's not all Microsoft's fault, but as long as I can't be sure that a) Vista runs all programs on the same speed and without more problems than XP had running them, I just can't see a reason to switch. Ok, it may be true that I exaggerated (and I apologize for that) in saying that Vista is the inferior OS, but at the moment, it is. Maybe, in a year or so, with more compatibility patches and patches that remove that all the spyware pre-built into Vista (if you don't believe me, just google for it, Microsoft created a lot of "anti piracy measures" in their OS, and I don't want them spying on what I'm doing with my PC), Vista may be superior to XP indeed (and I might give it a try again), but for now, XP just works better and is a lot more safe (even if that's only because there are more people trying to find and fix possible exploits for WinXP than on WinVista).

                          I don't want to insult or anger somebody who uses Vista, just to point out that in my opinion (and in that of many professionals), XP works better at the moment. Feel free to tell me how I'm wrong and why Vista is better than XP (and no, this is no sarcasm. Just do it, I'd really like to hear your reasons why you like Vista so much).

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                          • #14
                            Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                            As the local Linux zealot ;) the only thing that's keeping me from migrating my XP64 system to Vista Ultimate is the price. Plus, I figure I'd rather get a new system and hand this one down, anyway, which means I'd need to buy a full license, not an upgrade. Which is NOT cheap.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Microsoft: 64-bit market ready to go mainstream

                              Well I just bit the bullet and bought Vista 64 Ultimate... I didn't have a copy of 64bit XP pro on hand so I'd have to shell out money one way or another for a legal copy of either XP or Vista (I'm older now, I don't feel like dealing with all the work of 'liberating' my software -- its very annoying with an OS that uses an intrusive update system).

                              I'm coming from a 3.0 Ghz P4ht with 2gigs of ram running XP pro 32bit.
                              The new system is a Q9450 with 4GB of DDR1066
                              I'll let you know what things I like and dislike about vista.
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