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    Hey folks, a friend of mine wants me to build him a computer, the main function of this computer will be to run Autocad.
    he doesn't play any games at all.

    here are some parts i've thrown together on newegg what do yall think?

    keyboard/mouse (his choice)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823109035
    Power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153038
    Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133062
    Mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131291
    Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103273
    ram
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145197
    vidio card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133207
    hd-1
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148230
    hd-2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262
    monitor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001275
    ms office
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116460
    XP pro
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116515
    dvd burner
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129032



    he's wanting to stay with xp pro due to software he currently has
    Last edited by Dead_Meat; 09-03-2008, 01:14 PM.
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    Re: building a Cad Computer

    I think it may be cheaper/better for you to switch to an Intel board and processor, but that's just opinion.
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      Re: building a Cad Computer

      I was talking with a guy yesterday that is in school and uses a lot of CAD, and said he doesn't think the programs he uses run on vista yet, so I won't suggest that, but get him to find out if his stuff will run on XPpro64. That way he will be able to use all 4 gigs of that memory, and maybe upgrade to 8gigs in the future. From what I have heard CAD can gobble up memory. (I have the same memory you linked to, but without the fan:()

      Also, I don't usually recommend it here when helping people build, but in your friend's case I would really strongly consider going with a Raid harddrive setup. I don't remember which Raid version it is, but I think he would really benefit from the one that does a mirror image over 2 disks. The reason I say that is because of the hard work he is going to be doing, and a HD crash would be horrible. The mod team I am on has suffered 3 major setbacks due to HD failures, with months of work being lost. Most people (including my mod teammates) thought they would be fine just doing the occasional backup to another drive, but they all slacked off on doing the regular backups and we paid the price. Raid would make the security transparent, with no hassles.

      And allow me to drool all over that new monitor please :D

      Edit: just saw Spyder's post, and I am usually thinking the same thing he said. but I did some googling, and that AMD cpu actually does really good in a lot of # crunching program benchmarks. It doesn't keep up with Intel in gaming scores, but for what he needs to do with it, I think it might be good. And it supports AMD some so they can stay in the game. :D

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      • #4
        Re: building a Cad Computer

        What about a FireGL/ATI card instead of the nVidia line? Or does he have a brand preference?
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        • #5
          Re: building a Cad Computer

          Go for a cheaper PSU unit and more hard drive space. You don't need a 750watt rated PSU for that video card.

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          • #6
            Re: building a Cad Computer

            Originally posted by Bamboo View Post

            Also, I don't usually recommend it here when helping people build, but in your friend's case I would really strongly consider going with a Raid harddrive setup. I don't remember which Raid version it is, but I think he would really benefit from the one that does a mirror image over 2 disks.
            Raid 1.

            Either that or set yourself up with an external & automatic hdd image backup setup. The externals we sell actually comes with such software pre-installed.
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            • #7
              Re: building a Cad Computer

              The main thing I would check is compatability between the version of Autocad and the type of video card you choose. I know when I built the CAD unit for work we chose Solidworks as our software and were able to go with a much less expensive Nvidia card from TigerDirect.com.

              We however don't do extremely complicated assemblies, so that would be something to consider also. We saved $300 going with a cheaper card and doubt will even know the difference.
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              • #8
                Re: building a Cad Computer

                I just went and looked down the hall..all of our Inventor workstations here are Dual Core 8400's, all have a single 8800GT, 4 gigz o-ram (but we run XP), (2) WD Rappy's (RAID0) and 24" LG's..

                Seems like they would make REALLY nice gamers as wel! :)


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                • #9
                  Re: building a Cad Computer

                  I tend to remember that autocad publishes hardware compatibility charts. You may want to check that out before committing to anything.
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                  • #10
                    Re: building a Cad Computer

                    Those Phenom 9950s are supposedly pretty nice and apparently overclock pretty well with the Southbridge on the 790FX. (how the Southbridge has any bearing on overclocking ability is completely beyond me but that is what I've been reading.) You might get a bit more performance out of an Nvidia quad but you'll have to spend a hell of a lot more money or overclock a Q6600 a decent amount. I think the CPU/mobo is a good choice. I do agree with Bamboo that a Raid1 setup would be a good idea.
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                    • #11
                      Re: building a Cad Computer

                      thanks for the input folks
                      i did switch the vidio card out for an open box version of this one
                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195014
                      and i do know all the fire gl's and quatros cards are autodesk certified and autodesk has special drivers for them on thier website

                      we ditched MS office he dosen't really need it and can use the open office
                      so the whole thing with shipping is 1986.63
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                      • #12
                        Re: building a Cad Computer

                        AutoCAD is used for a lot of different kind of CAD work. What kind will he be doing? Architectural? Solid modeling? Something else?

                        Will it be memory-intensive? That calls for a 64-bit OS and a 64-bit build of AutoCAD. If you export to Photoshop to do photo-realistic renderings at high resolution, you might need a lot of memory. In my shop, we use a lot of memory on one machine to do finite element analysis.

                        Depending on the application, get a high resolution display. The biggest complaint I've seen from CAD users is having to constantly zoom in and out to see both the "big picture" and fine detail. He may also benefit from a second monitor.

                        At my office we use SolidWorks for machine shop work, and they spec nVidia Quadra series cards because they're more accurate than game cards for computing details. I don't recall the exact details, but I recall it was something to do with zooming out to see a whole room or building and being able to see if the moldings interfered. Again, whether you need to pay more for the "CAD video card" depends on whether you need that precision in rendering.
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                        • #13
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                          the add on program he has that he uses with autocad will not run on a 64 bit system right now. He will be doing 3d plumbing and piping models. He prefers one large monitor which he got the 24" at work we use a dual monitor set up but he mainly uses one for email and 1 for drawing
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                          • #14
                            Re: building a Cad Computer

                            I doubt plumbing uses a lot of memory, so 32 bit is probably ok for now.
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                            • #15
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                              While on the subject, this was just posted a few mins. ago:

                              Barco demoes 10MP 3D stereo CADWall setup

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