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  • Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Wow. Bet the battery would only last about 20-30 mins. gaming:

    Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

  • =DdogG=
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    yeah.... that one was a very sweet hack.... and not common (I do not know of another computer able to do that.... and technically, the 9300 was hacked to be an xps2... which is technically not the same computer going to a new gen video. you are changing the computer to change the video.)

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  • Tonk
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    well, that dell 9300 could go from a 6800 to an 6800 ultra or a 7800gtx

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  • =DdogG=
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    I would not want the brick in the laptop in case it ever fried. it is very easy to replace a brick than it would an integrated PSU.

    also... for anyone reading this, please do not tell people that laptop video cards are integrated or not upgradeable... but on the other side.. please do not tell someone that just because the laptop has pci-e that it should be upgradable.

    Laptops have options fro video cards:
    integrated: out of luck on changing it. (x3100, x4500hd, radeon m200, etc.)
    discrete: you have whatever 2-6 options the vendor decides to give you. (nvidia 8400gs, radeon 4650)
    generally, if it tells you how much ram it has, it is discrete, and POSSIBLY can be upgraded - if the vendor offers other options, and IF you do not have the highest option already. you will never get to go from one generation to another - (GF8600 to GF 9500)

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  • Tonk
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    not worried about the weight more so the size... your adding another 25% bulk on the laptop... and more heat, if they sit in place, they shouldnt have to worry about the brick anyway

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  • Acreo Aeneas
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by Tonk View Post
    no cause the notebook has to be that much bigger and heavier... my brick weighs about 2 pounds on my XPS... and is 3x2x5 give or take... so add that weight and size to an already massive notebook... no thanks.. i already travel daily with my 17 inch laptop
    But gaming notebooks usually weight over 9.5 pounds. The ones I've played on (friends mostly) weigh around 12-15 pounds. They really aren't meant to be very mobile as they usually sit in one place most of the time. What's another 2 pounds?

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  • Tonk
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
    Wouldn't it be better if they built one into the notebook rather than having a oversize hunk o' power brick?
    no cause the notebook has to be that much bigger and heavier... my brick weighs about 2 pounds on my XPS... and is 3x2x5 give or take... so add that weight and size to an already massive notebook... no thanks.. i already travel daily with my 17 inch laptop

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  • msdz
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
    Generally, most laptops do not have replaceable graphics cards/chipsets. You would need to have one of those high-end gaming ones and I believe a mini PCI-E graphics slot with a removable add-on card.
    Don't forget, I just built a new laptop that has a removable MXM graphics card. Even though it is a removable card to upgrade at a later date I still imagine I could only upgrade to a certain extent, I am sure a mobile 4870 X2 is going to generate more heat than my 9600M GT and also require more power.
    Each laptop is different with how the MB is set up with where the exhaust fan is(left, right, or even the backside exhaust) so it would be difficult for a graphics card company to sell a heatsink for the graphics card for each laptop cause of the way the GPU and CPU heatsinks mount to the heatpipe.
    Laptops need to be a standardized format like most desktop MB are so they could make this easier to do. As for the power, most laptops generally use about the same power requirements that I checked into but I most likely am wrong about the high end gaming laptops. Seems like they would have to have a larger PSU in order to run the higher end graphics cards over the ones that have onboard video or even low end add-on graphic cards.

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  • Acreo Aeneas
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by Tonk View Post
    i wonder how big the power brick will be since bricks use size for heat dissipation normally (more surface area = better cooling)... (actively cooled power brick?)
    Wouldn't it be better if they built one into the notebook rather than having a oversize hunk o' power brick?

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  • Tonk
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    i wonder how big the power brick will be since bricks use size for heat dissipation normally (more surface area = better cooling)... (actively cooled power brick?)

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  • Acreo Aeneas
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by msdz View Post
    The thing is, most laptop graphics are built in, will this ATi Mobility 4870 X2 be one that can be added later to your laptop? If my laptop could handle the heat this card would generate and the power it would need to operate I would love to get one for my laptop. I am new to laptops and don't know much even though I just built my own barebones laptop about a week ago but of course the heat would have to be an issue. So I figure if they sold the card separately so you could upgrade they would also need to sell or at least package it with the card the CPU/GPU heatsink/heatpipe/fan to pull the additional heat out.
    Still it would be nice to have some better options to upgrade laptop graphics.
    Generally, most laptops do not have replaceable graphics cards/chipsets. You would need to have one of those high-end gaming ones and I believe a mini PCI-E graphics slot with a removable add-on card.

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  • msdz
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    The thing is, most laptop graphics are built in, will this ATi Mobility 4870 X2 be one that can be added later to your laptop? If my laptop could handle the heat this card would generate and the power it would need to operate I would love to get one for my laptop. I am new to laptops and don't know much even though I just built my own barebones laptop about a week ago but of course the heat would have to be an issue. So I figure if they sold the card separately so you could upgrade they would also need to sell or at least package it with the card the CPU/GPU heatsink/heatpipe/fan to pull the additional heat out.
    Still it would be nice to have some better options to upgrade laptop graphics.

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  • Acreo Aeneas
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    Originally posted by Buckets View Post
    How do they cool it? It seems like it would light your table on fire after a few minutes of heavy use.
    There's probably a shared heatsink with the CPU or it's own copper heatsink. Then 1-2 fans to blow the hot air out the back of the system.

    This chipset usually goes into the 10+ pounder desktop replacement gaming notebooks that are like 2-inches thick. They could basically fit the entire desktop card (minus the bracket) into the notebook.

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  • RedFalcoln
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    this mobile one is just as strong as the normal? does it need fans aswell? because i think it would just melt if its same card as the normal one

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  • Buckets
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    Re: Mobility Radeon 4870 X2 to take the lead in high-performance laptop gaming

    How do they cool it? It seems like it would light your table on fire after a few minutes of heavy use.

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