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    With the new Kindle coming out in a few weeks and the MASSIVE price drop, I finally bit the bullet and pre-ordered a black Kindle w/ 3g. This last weekend, I also played with the Nook at Barnes & Noble. A VERY cool device. I liked the color android-powered touch screen at the bottom, but the refresh when turning pages was too noticeable for my liking. I'm sure that the Nook will completely rock when they come out with their next version of it.

    So, I was wondering how many of you have e-readers, which ones do you have, and how do you like them? Do you use them regularly? Do you think that e-readers are the way of the future, or will they just serve a niche market? The savings on best sellers are definitely great, and should make the thing pay for itself pretty quick. Plus this will help me read tons of classics I haven't read, since there are literally hundreds of thousands of free books available!

    Since I travel for work all the time, I'm really excited about this! I always get in the mood to read one of my old books when I'm already on the road, so it'll be so wonderful to be able to carry my entire library with me at all times! :D

    Is anyone else here getting the new Kindle? The Kindle DX looks interesting, too.
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    I am a Nook e-reader. I too dislike the refresh time on the page turner but overall i am very pleased with it.

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      I have a 5" Astak Pocket Pro (same as the Mini BeBook and Hanlin V5). I bought mine back in January for $200 + shipping ($12). It came with a 2 GB SD card, a USB charger, USB cable, crush-resistant faux leather case/flip cover, and a 1 year 50% off coupon at BooksonBoard.com (50% of your first 10 ebook purchases are refunded as store credit).

      I've used mines regularly for the past 7+ months and have gone through perhaps 30 books or so in that time (roughly 12,000 page turns). It goes with me on most of my commutes to and from school and events.

      FWIW, I dropped the Kindle as consideration simply due to the lack of support in formats compared to alternative readers and hate being tied down mostly to Amazon for my reading wants and needs. Other factors were updates, support, active community, weight, and cost. The Nook also is not on my consideration list for future readers. It's heavier than my PP (almost 3x the weight) and also does not come with a case. The Kindles don't either. So in the end, even though you might be saving $50 or $80 on a reader, you're forking that some of that amount over in accessories like the case/cover.

      Something of note, one of the major selling points for me is the very active involvement of a Robert B. over at MobileRead who works as the Marketing Director for Astak and is constantly on the MR forums helping customers with problems or answer questions. He also listens carefully to any suggestions or improvements to current and future products and the last few FW updates have had major community involvement and feedback.
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        I got my Kindle 2 as a gift from my brother who's a software engineer @ Amazon.

        <shameless plug>
        If you have a Droid or Nexus One smartphone and are looking to get an e-reader, you may want to consider getting the wifi-only version of the Kindle since Android 2.2 allows you to set up a wifi hotspot. You'll basically have a full-featured Kindle after tapping thru 2 or 3 menus on the phone.
        </shameless plug>

        Regarding lack of support in formats, there is a free program called Calibre that converts a variety of formats (e.g. epub, pdf) into Amazon's AZW. It also lets you parse plain text PDFs for chapter and book headers.



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          Originally posted by tau_neutrino View Post
          Regarding lack of support in formats, there is a free program called Calibre that converts a variety of formats (e.g. epub, pdf) into Amazon's AZW. It also lets you parse plain text PDFs for chapter and book headers.
          Except if you buy a DRM'd book in a non-AZW format, you'll have to strip the DRM off before Calibre can do the book conversion for you. Also, the end result might not be the best formatting. You might end up with wacko formatting of the text or even corrupted letters/words.
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            Originally posted by War.mongeR1 View Post
            The savings on best sellers are definitely great, and should make the thing pay for itself pretty quick.
            So have the prices come down then?

            When I was last looking into e-readers e-books were about $10 or more a piece, seeing as I buy paperbacks that cost between $6-$8 new and used ones for as little as two-bits, I said forget it unless they come down to about $5 or less.

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              Originally posted by Harlequin View Post
              So have the prices come down then?

              When I was last looking into e-readers e-books were about $10 or more a piece, seeing as I buy paperbacks that cost between $6-$8 new and used ones for as little as two-bits, I said forget it unless they come down to about $5 or less.
              The average price for a bestseller is still around $10.
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                Originally posted by Acreo Aeneas View Post
                The average price for a bestseller is still around $10.
                Seems like ebooks are following on the footsteps of digital music. Packaging and distribution costs are going down with the move to digital downloads yet the content providers refuse to lower prices for consumers accordingly. That's one thing that keeping me from getting an e-reader (that and lack of color on current e-ink devices).

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                  Here's an interesting take on ebooks and pricing etc from an authors point of view - link

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                  I occasionaly use Aldiko on my Droid which is ok at a push and I've tried a few readers but none have really appealed to me. Part of the enjoyment of reading is browsing the book shelves and discovering hidden gems of literature :) I love 2nd hand book stores.
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                  • #10
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                    This is old news already, but back before the summer, 5 of the major publishers raised their ebook pricing scheme: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_wguy/2...ch_wguy_tc1411

                    The only one left was Random House who stuck with the traditional model of lower prices for digital books, rather than higher prices.

                    With that said, I have avoided buying from any of those publishers unless their ebooks were lower than paperback pricing on the same title.
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                      I have a first generation kindle. I will purchase either the new kindle with wifi or get the dx this fall. My wife will get my old kindle. It has more than paid for itself with just the free books I have been able to download. Not just out of copyright books, but a lot of publishers will release the first book in a series for free as an ebook. I have discovered a few new series this way, and they made money off of me for it.

                      I love my kindle, but regardless of which ereader you choose, for a variety of reasons they trump a paper book or phone/pc/ipad reading. So no, I am not going to evangalize my kindle (I do think the new kindle wifi sounds to be the best since I always did it through my pc anyway), but I will encourage e-ink readers.
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                        Great input, everyone! The Astak Pocket Pro definitely looks like a great choice, as well! I wish I had heard of it before, or I would've probably bought it ages ago. However, it still needs to be hooked up to a pc, unlike the $139 wifi kindle. But, the book freedom the pocket pro offers is unparalleled. The 3g is really a selling point for me, though. I'm on the road all the time, and it'd be nice to have a device that can totally stand on it's own without having to be dependent on any other device. That's what sold me on the Kindle and the Nook as opposed to the Sony reader.
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                          As far as book prices go, they seem to be fair. I looked up Ender's Game, and the e-book is $1 cheaper than it's paperback counterpart, being $5.99 vs $6.99, plus no shipping costs of course. That seems to be the general pricing scheme for older books. SLIGHTLY cheaper, but not a huge savings. Still nice to save a buck, though.
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                            Honestly, I can barely find a strong enough WiFi signal to download my emails to my phone most of the time (most networks are WPA/WPA2 encrypted), so the WiFi only Kindle 3 would still have to be hooked up to my PC. 3G's a whole other story.

                            Some other ebookstores to consider:

                            www.booksonboard.com
                            www.fictionwise.com
                            www.ebooks.com
                            www.kobobooks.com
                            www.diesel-ebooks.com
                            www.smashwords.com
                            www.lulu.com

                            Those are probably the seven biggest and most popular ebookstores other than Amazon and B&N's own ebookstores.

                            The first four have an enormous amount of discounts practically every week (if not daily) on a range of categories and titles. The last two are the largest stores with self-published authors (quite a few of them are very good too).

                            Personally, most of my new ebooks have come from Books on Board, Kobo, Lulu, and Smashwords. The rest come from a number of other stores too long to mention here.
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                              Ars Technica reviews the Kindle 3:

                              http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/revie...ainstream.ars/

                              I'm thinking of asking for an e-reader for my upcoming birthday or for xmas and I'm wondering whether I should get the K3 or perhaps a B&N Nook. Does the color version of the Nook use eInk or is it a lighted screen like a cell phone, and hence uncomfortable for extended sessions of focused reading? Should I get the cheaper eInk-based monochrome Nook?

                              The main things I'd like to read are either SF novels or advanced tutorial computer books such as those from O'Reilly.
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