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  • Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

    I've prettttty much fallen in love with the new GTX 460 Fermi 1GB.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125333

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ermi,2684.html

    The useful monkies at Tom's Hardware also demonstrated how the 460 is temperature and energy efficient, while packing a punch. So, the rest of the build....

    The following is from a Newegg Bundle:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.475930

    1. AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor (Model: HDT55TFBGRBOX)
    2. GIGABYTE AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX Motherboard (Model: GA-880GMA-UD2H)
    3. OCZ Vertex Series 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (Model: OCZSSD2-1VTX60G)
    4. OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (Model: OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK)
    5. Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (Model: ST31500341AS)
    6. Antec Twelve Hundred 750 Blue Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 750W Power Supply

    After pricing several i7 and i5 builds, and then comparing the demographics between 930, 920, 760, and 750 vs the 1055T I think I'm set with the processor. I do a lot of graphic work, and a bit of audio work. The 1055T blew me away on the benchmarks. Can't argue with the price, either.

    This bundle also included a SSD and a 1.5 TB drive. 1.5 TB is 500GB larger than what I would have chosen, but I figure it'll just give me more of an excuse for my music library/image folder completionist hobby. But what really interested me with the bundle was the 60GB SSD. This would be my first foray into SSD's other than my Dell Mini netbook...

    Oh yeah. Insert Generic DVD drive here.
    Insert OEM Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (I was using 2000 up until 2006, and have used XP pro since... [Call me out dated, but I still boot faster than most :)])

    Questions:

    1. Anyone ever have any issues with Gigabyte GPUs? I've only ever used BFG (do they even exist anymore?) and XFX.
    2. Should I look a separate PSU? I do not want to go over 750W.
    3. This is my first build in...4 years. What am I missing?
    4. Fan controllers? Temp readouts?
    5. This would probably be an almost 24/7 system, given that I work from home. My PC is not 5 feet from the bed. LED's would certainly annoy me. It's no big deal for me to just have them disabled... but could I install a controller to turn them on and off? I sleep with white noise (a fan), so the fan noise at night would not bother me.

    No periphrials are needed, no soundcard...

    I'm sitting pretty at 1,128, and am willing to wiggle.
    Skud



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    Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

    I've never used gigabyte but i have used bfg in the past. I personally now only use Evga because they have such great support. XFX has typically been the cheap end.

    2. 750 watt is fine. Get a good one and a new one. I like OCZ myself but check out some reviews on newegg or elsewhere.
    3. A storage drive. That ssd won't get you very far.
    4. The nice thing about EVGA is you get precision to use with your card which gives you temp, fan and OC control. Otherwise you want a good mobo that gives those readouts and either it's own software or speedfan (third party). I know asus makes great mobo's for all of that. Not sure on the rest.
    5. You can get a controller for just about anything :P


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    • #3
      Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

      Thanks for the early reply.

      I know many here swear by EVGA. I know they're great. But I can't imagine Gigabyte being terrible.

      I do have a 1.5TB 7200 RPM HDD on the build. Haha, I have 45GB of music alone, and god knows how many games available to install on Steam alone. I can only imagine... Anyway, the SSD will probably be used for multiplayer games....

      I will browse for some nice 750W

      I guess I'll just research more into controllers. I'm a little bit of a hobbiest, so I'd like to have some unique and personal set up...
      Skud


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      • #4
        Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

        Looks good. I just bought a ANTEC 1200 and am very happy with my new foot rest.

        Document your build and show us the results!
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        • #5
          Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

          BFG recently went out of business. Their warranties are no longer honored, so don't buy any of their stuff on clearance if you want a warranty.


          The included 750W power supply is probably made by the case maker Antec. Antec makes some pretty solid power supplies. It is at least worth researching the unit that is included and reading a review or two on it.
          |TG-12th| Namebot

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          • #6
            Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

            Two things heavily turn me off to that combo:

            - The motherboard is micro ATX
            - The 7200.11 Seagate drive. Everywhere I read there are warnings about that line of drives.

            Here are some cool combos I noticed:

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.496387

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.480355

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.483455

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.492896 (15% XFX coupon combines with this)

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.467750

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.492818 (15% XFX coupon combines with this)

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.493086

            Attachment is what I liked. Only missing the optical drive. After shipping and all discounts(coupon/MIBs) it came to $1072.77
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            • #7
              Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

              To piggyback off of Mantis, check out Newegg's labor day sale. You can get that Samsung F3 1TB drive (I have one. it is great.) for $60 with a promo code. There are some other good deals there too.

              http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail...x-_-E0-_-ENTER
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              • #8
                Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                Originally posted by FBmantis View Post
                Two things heavily turn me off to that combo:

                - The motherboard is micro ATX
                - The 7200.11 Seagate drive. Everywhere I read there are warnings about that line of drives.
                Oh my, good catch. I think Newegg just didn't realize they were putting a micro in a full tower...

                Also a good catch on the HDD.

                I like some of the bundles you posted and will post my decisions later today or tomorrow. Thanks Mantis.
                Skud


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                • #9
                  Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                  Yea just saw your post and the first thing that struck me odd was pairing a micro ATX board with a full tower case. Anyways, here are some tips/suggestions:

                  1. CPU - As many others have noted in this forum, if you live in the US and you happen to be near a Microcenter store, they offer unbeatable prices on a few mainstream processors. A quick glance shows that they sell the Phenom II X6 1090T for $260 and the 1055T for $196. They also sell the Core i7 870 for $230 and the Core i7 930 for $200. Of course you have to be able to get to a brick and mortar store.

                  2. Motherboard - I always go for an Asus or Gigabyte motherboard (I think they're actually two brands under the same company now, but I could be wrong) because they're reliable, high performing and never disappoint me. Look for a model that has a lot of feedback. Actually, anytime I look for any type of hardware on Newegg.com, I always sort the results by "Most Reviews". That way, all of the product's attributes (positive or negative), issues and quirks are well documented. If you run into problems with that board down the road, it's always nice being able to google help and find numerous people out there that have the same product or setup, have experienced the same problem and have already come across a solution.

                  3. GeForce GTX 460 - The reference design and cooler of the GTX 460 is supposed to be pretty good. It's quiet and keeps the card cool. I know there were some brands that deviated from the nVidia reference design and ended up with a cooler that was super loud. I can't remember which brand off the top of my head, but just make sure you read the reviews on the specific GTX 460 model you decide to go with.

                  4. Power Supply - 750W is a lot of power, you could definitely get away with something less powerful if you wanted to. 600 or 650W would be fine. PSU brands that I trust include: PC Power & Cooling, Antec, OCZ, Corsair, Enermax, and Seasonic. Pick any one of those with the appropriate wattage and you should be good to go. Use this PSU calculator to get an idea of how much you need:

                  http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

                  5. Hard Drives - I'm partial to the Western Digital Caviar Black series myself, but I've seen impressive reviews of that Samsung F3 drive. For Solid State Drives, I've heard the drives using the SandForce controller are quite good. I believe the OCZ Vertex 2 line uses this controller. Just make sure you install Windows 7 to take advantage of the Trim command.

                  6. Case - I use an Antec 1200 and I love it because it's expansive inside, it's easy to work with, has great airflow and I can route all the cables cleanly behind the motherboard. That being said, most people don't need a full tower setup. If you're going with a standard setup without multiple graphics cards, 5 or 6 hard drives or a bunch of expansion cards, I would look at the Antec 900 case. It's also a phenomenal case with great airflow, adjustable fan speed and it's quiet. It's just a shrunken down version of the 1200 model and it's also cheaper.

                  7. CPU Cooler - I would highly recommend going with a 3rd party CPU HSF. A good one will be much more effective at cooling the processor and it should be quieter too. You don't need to go all out and spend $80 on a cooler either. You can get an Arctic Freezer Pro for ~$35. There are other models that are also great, might want to Google what other people are putting on their Phenom 1055T's.

                  Hope this helps
                  "Looking for brahs to come fight crime with me" - Unload



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                  • #10
                    Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                    Do this combo skud: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...7978&t=2211013
                    |TG-12th|mantis

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                    • #11
                      Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                      My pick for power supply: Corsair AX750. I'm probably going to buy this one myself.

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139016

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                      • #12
                        Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                        Hey guys, thanks for all your help over the past week putting this build together. I know I said I'd get back to ya'll about this on the 3rd, but I had a busy weekend and now that I was working my Graveyard shift I had the time to do my researching.

                        First, here's the Checkout. I am very satisfied with 1203 total. I was willing to go up to 1300, but if you can save some money in the process why not? :)

                        Now for the individual parts:

                        Case:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133056
                        I decided to go with this case because it happened to be one of the cases Mantis caught on to, and just so happens to be a newer version of my friend's tower that he built a year and a half ago. At least, it's a spitting image. I'm not one for fancy cases, but this seemed pretty reasonable. Also, call me a skeptic, but I just prefer my PSU to be up top. Antec 1200 looked great, but ultimately it also had so many facking LED's that I'd probably have to get switches for. Also, it seems this case is HEAVY, and I'm cool with that. Another thing - I'm going with a full tower because I do plan on adding some stuff to the drive bays in the future.

                        PSU/GPU Combo:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.493758
                        I did a bit of research and according to what a reviewer said, not only would 600W be fine for a 460GTX, but it could possibly do SLI. Not that I plan on it. So I was looking for a PSU and ultimately ended up doing this bundle. My only concern will be PSU cable length, but the only reviewers who complained about this were bottom-mount PSU users.

                        MOBO/CPU/RAM/SSD combo:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.467750
                        Whew, what a combo! Thanks to Mantis for posting this beast! I DID search for a similar combo with a 40GB SSD instead, or the 1055T with Ram and Mobo, but I'm not going to cry over the extra 20GB's when it arrives... ;)

                        HDD:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185
                        Due to multiple recommendations. Nice find, guys.

                        DVD Drive:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
                        It uh, does DVD stuffs.

                        Windows:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754
                        Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit. This will be my first 64-bit OS (Still kickin' it with my copy of XP Pro 32-bit)

                        And last but not least:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007
                        Trusty, reliable, Arctic silver.
                        Skud


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                        • #13
                          Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                          Will be placing order today after I wake up in the afternoon (working until 8am)

                          EDIT (summoning the great Bamboo!):

                          What's the BEST way for me to use my SSD? I've had the idea in my mind that I will assemble the build, including both the HDD and SSD. I will go to BIOS and make sure the 60GB SSD is the boot. Install Windows 7 and key applications* to SSD. All my games, music, photos, and the majority of the software will go on the 1TB HDD.

                          *Ah, you noticed the asterisk. What really determines 'key application'? There's 60GB here. I was thinking windows 7, anti-virus software, and software that starts on windows start should go on the SSD.

                          I'm figuring that Windows 7 is going to take about 12 GB.
                          I'm figuring that Drivers will add a bit
                          I'm figuring I'll disable Hibernation (Keeping System restore points until I'm confident with the build down the road)
                          I'm figuring the pagefile will be 4GB, equal to my ram.

                          So I'm, again, figuring right now, that I'll be at 20GB used? That will leave me with 40GB.

                          I'm figuring, with 40 GB, I could easily install BF2 (With all my mods), and ARMA 2 (with Arma 2 PR), but taking a look at my BF2 content in my program files is already a whopping 13.5GB! Whelp! I'm fairly certain Arma 2 is an 8GB install by itself... Oh my. So I guess gaming off the SSD is kinda out of the question... Not to mention both titles love to eat up your pagefile...

                          As of now, this is the list of definates for the SSD off the top of my head...

                          Windows 7
                          The various Drivers
                          Firefox (And it's addons/extensions)
                          AVG/spybot S&D/crap cleaner
                          Rainmeter/Rainlender

                          Any thoughts would be appreciated...
                          Last edited by Skud; 09-07-2010, 05:41 AM.
                          Skud


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                          • #14
                            Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                            "SAMSUNG HD103SJ has been removed from shopping cart due to quantity limitation/insufficient stock. Some combo items might be affected by this."

                            Sigh... Researching other 1TB Drives.



                            Settled on 1TB WD Caviar Black.
                            Last edited by Skud; 09-07-2010, 04:21 PM.
                            Skud


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                            • #15
                              Re: Build based on GTX 460 Fermi

                              Originally posted by TheSkudDestroyer View Post

                              Settled on 1TB WD Caviar Black.
                              Good choice. The Caviar Black series is fast and durable.
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