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    There seems to be a lot of ire raised at a reboot of the Superman franchise penned by the creator of Babylon 5:

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/new-...erman-replaces

    There's some pretty good comments here about other re-imaginings of Superman, including one in which he landed in the Ukraine and became a Soviet hero instead of an American one:

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives...ge-1/#comments

    Here's the press release from the author's page:

    http://worldsofjms.com/news/?p=138
    Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

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    “It looks like the new Superman should have great appeal to the Columbine crowd,” Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights told CNSNews.com.

    “After all, he’s moody – not pensive, but moody – and he’s got that hood on him. I think people who want to shoot up innocents in high schools will look at him and say, ‘He is hip.’”

    Donahue said there is clearly an attempt to portray the new Man of Steel as looking more like he leans towards evil than good.

    “Which certainly goes to show how intellectually bankrupt these people are. They can’t create a new figure and make him appeal to the Columbine crowd,” he said. “What they have to do is to hijack and to crib off of an image which people all over the workld can identify with in a fairly happy way. But they don’t want to make him happy. They want to make him moody. So it obviously suggests that there’s something about our age that they think this might appeal. It doesn’t say anything positive about our culture to think that young people might be drawn to a character who looks like this.”
    What a tremendously stupid comment. But well... "president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights" pretty much stands for itself.


    “Truth, Justice and the American Way are all under attack, pretty much however you would like to look at it,” Holtz said. “A lot of people don’t believe in Truth or Justice anymore, and the American Way used to be something that we would fight for, but now there are a lot of people who would say the American Way is inherently a problematic thing – and so it gets deconstructed in popular culture.”
    Well... The problem is that the so called 'American Way' has nothing to do with truth or justice. The next problem is that conservative and/or right-winged people always seem to tend to those theatralic and blindly patriotic values (Plus religious blah). And of course they attack everything which doesn't perfectly fit in this view.
    Are all traditions bad? No. Is the old Superman bad? No.
    Should traditions and old beliefs be looked upon with sceptics and be revised if neccessary? Yes!
    Does culture change? Yes. Is art closely related to culture and changes as well? Of course.


    Just look at the times. Superman was created in the '30s. Pre-war. The following decades were abundant with patriotism and indoctrination. You basically had to choose which side you're on. Would a Superman who doubts, asks and maybe even disregards such beloved (And possibly wrong and/or illusionary) American values sell comicbooks? Well... propably not really. The authors would have propably been forced to look for other job in preferably other countries.

    But times change. People change. The world changes.
    Today (And I speak as an outside spectator, claiming this by merely subjective expieriences with US citizens) people question their traditions, their indoctrinated values and beliefs. Not all of them, maybe not even the majority. But there's clearly a trend to not swallow everything people are trying to feed you. It's a slow trend, but it's there.
    So why should popculture not address this - very promising imho - trend? Why is it bad to question the status quo? Why is it bad to not pretend that we all live in Happyworld? Why is it bad not to blindly follow conservative indoctrination and brainlessly repeat slogans which people are trying to hammer into your mind?

    Same old, same old, I guess.
    People with no relation to reality or the youth criticize without the slightest knowledge of the subject.
    TV had the problem back in the good ol' days I'm too young to have witnessed.
    Videogames are still being attacked by 'experts' who propably have never played for a single hour.
    Comic books are another mass media, consumed by mostly young and often openminded people. So why would it be any different for them?
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      ....Right. It's a comic book, dude. The change falls more in line with the recent success of the "Twilight" movies, with their moody "bad boy" hero and such.

      DC Comics co-publisher Dan DiDio described the graphic novel -- in book stores November 2 -- with adjectives more typically used to hype new CW dramas.

      "We wanted to tell a story that's hip, sexy, and moody," he said.
      Hardly the words of someone wanting to make a social commentary about the Evils of American Imperialism or whatever US-bashing the world's raging about this month.

      The article is misleading, anyway. It's a graphic novel one-shot, a "What If?" reimagining. Comic books do this stuff all the time. The original Big Blue Superman is still running around in his two main series.

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        Well, I'd just say 'Yeah... new Superman... so what'.
        It's those guys who transfer a simple comicbook to a political issue.
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        • #5
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          "'Yeah... new Superman... so what'."

          Indeed. A "re-imagining" or "redesign" of a comic book character is pretty standard stuff.

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            Which makes the 'OMG OUR VALUES! OMG COLUMBINE!' bull**** even more stupid.
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            • #7
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              Well, it probably was a pretty ho-hum story until they fished around for the most asinine commentary they could find.

              “After all, he’s moody – not pensive, but moody – and he’s got that hood on him. I think people who want to shoot up innocents in high schools will look at him and say, ‘He is hip.’”
              It's almost like the dude is trolling. :P

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              • #8
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                Part of the allure of the first season of Smallville was that Superman didn't know his powers through and through. He was a teenager at school gradually getting his powers and gradually understanding how to use them. I never did like Superman because he was perfect. He had just about every super power that he needed with no weaknesses... well except for kryptonite, but that's a pretty lame resource if Superman always wins until kryptonite shows up. Marvel has had a set of re imaginings with their Ultimate line. It's understandable why DC would start too.

                Also what about him makes him brooding? We're talking about cover art. Cover art is almost always never related to what actually happens in the comic book. Take for instance Spiderman, they had a picture of Spiderman in a bumper cart hitting the bumper cars with the Enforcers in them. Did it actually happen? No.

                Returning Superman back to a kid and giving him a treandy jacket with a hood on it doesn't speak anything about the actual content or that much has changed.

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