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    According to most news outlets the protesters that occupy wall street/any location around the U.S are rambling pot smoking idiots without any direction or coherent message. I am sure many smoke pot, sure a few are there that are idiots, and yes there is more than one message or idea. What makes me angry is that the media diliberatly seeks out these individuals to dumb down the movement and cast a shadow of ignorance over this protest. I know why they are there, the protesters know why they are there and it is only growing bigger spreading even to other countries. So my question is ...

    1. Who does the media think they are fooling ?
    2. Do you understand what is really happening ?
    3. Will this effort buy the people create real change ?

    As a member of TZM ( The ZeitGueist Movement ) and someone who listens to all types of media from all sides, FOX news to the Daily show, right wing and left wing talk radio to regular people in my community, I can say I saw this comming and wish I could be there. At the moment all I am able to do is spread the word and help through food donations, so my last question is anyone here going to a protest in there area or contributing in other ways ?

    We are the 99% and we are to big to fail.

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    It's not spreading to other countries. It happened in other countries first. Nothing further to add just wanted to get that out there:P

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by Kwalc View Post
      It's not spreading to other countries. It happened in other countries first. Nothing further to add just wanted to get that out there:P
      Indeed true lol but I never said we started it and it is spreading. :P bakatcha ;)

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        What I find hilarious is CNN and FoxNews going "lol, what are they saying? What do they want?" while the German (NYTimes equivalent, basically) Der Spiegel wrote an awesome little piece laying it out for everyone in Germany that pretty much gets it spot on. Go figure.

        But then, Fox is Fox and CNN's financial reporter is a former Citigroup vp and is marrying a Citigroup exec. Ju
        I can ADS using more than a 2x without significant stutter! This was a good patch.

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        • #5
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          In my city it is just a bunch of a hippies and people who don't use banks in the first place doing the "occupy." It's the same group that participates in all the rally's, all 20 of them.

          Also, media does not have to seek idiots for the camera. Impassioned idiots seek the spotlight, its not about the idiot spreading the message of the group, its about others seeing the idiot in the spotlight. The power of a rally/protest isn't seeing one individual on camera spilling rhetoric, it's seeing a large number of individuals you can identify with united in a cause you believe in. The problem with most of these rally's is the general public can't identify with those at the rally.
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Shane View Post
            According to most news outlets the protesters that occupy wall street/any location around the U.S are rambling pot smoking idiots without any direction or coherent message. I am sure many smoke pot, sure a few are there that are idiots, and yes there is more than one message or idea. What makes me angry is that the media diliberatly seeks out these individuals to dumb down the movement and cast a shadow of ignorance over this protest. I know why they are there, the protesters know why they are there and it is only growing bigger spreading even to other countries. So my question is ...

            1. Who does the media think they are fooling ?
            2. Do you understand what is really happening ?
            3. Will this effort buy the people create real change ?

            As a member of TZM ( The ZeitGueist Movement ) and someone who listens to all types of media from all sides, FOX news to the Daily show, right wing and left wing talk radio to regular people in my community, I can say I saw this comming and wish I could be there. At the moment all I am able to do is spread the word and help through food donations, so my last question is anyone here going to a protest in there area or contributing in other ways ?

            We are the 99% and we are to big to fail.
            Enlighten me, you quote "We are the 99% and we are to big to fail.", what are "we to big to fail" at?

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            • #7
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              I'm sure a lot of the protesters are unemployed, bored, stoned 20 somethings; but be wary of anyone painting them ALL that way! None of the protesters are going to be able to offer up a suggested alternative system for global economics (and even if they did, it wouldn't be in 30-second soundbite-format that would make the news). They just know what we have now is broken.


              If you're genuinely, honestly willing to think and decide for yourself, this collection of charts is a good starting point:

              Charts: Here's What The Wallstreet Protesters Are So Angry About

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              • #8
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                I'm not too big a fan of protests like this precisely because they tend to attract the less-than-civil sorts and the people whose philosophy can be condensed into one-line bumpsticker slogans and chants. Sure, to some extent, I think they have the right idea, but at the same time, I think there are a lot more effective, less obnoxious ways of protesting (e.g not voting simply because a guy sounds cool or because he's the "lesser of two evils").
                Last edited by JohnRenwick; 10-13-2011, 10:54 AM. Reason: Grammatical errors in my posts bug me

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                • #9
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                  [QUOTE=JohnRenwick;1659811 (e.g not voting simply because a guy sounds cool or because he's the "lesser of two evils").[/QUOTE]

                  That is what is broke in our system. People don't care to vote, or vote blindly. If some politician or group of them voted for something you are not in favor of, vote for someone else. As of right now, outside of huge scandals, politicians don't have to concern themselves with getting people's vote, just campaign dollars so their party pushes them. So the politicians then in turn vote for or create legislation for those who are the source of the campaign dollars. If your boss isn't going to fire you and someone who directly influences your raise and bonuses asks you to do something that may not benefit your department, you would be an idiot not to follow the increase in pay.

                  @W6, you decide :P http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...11019803?tc=cr

                  Although, mad props to the Guy Fawkes mask.
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                  • #10
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                    What really pissed me off is we were forced this crap about to "big to fail". OK so we bailed out the banks and there doing super great again. Why haven't we done anything about to big to fail, why haven't we been chopping these banks up into smaller pieces so the next time of of them does fail it doesn't domino and take out the whole system. We have monopoly laws in the country for a reason they need to start being used. These banks are just as big or in some cases bigger after buying up the few that did fail, and still present a real danger to the economy if one of the tanks again.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Too big to fail

                      Thank God for the parasites.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Too big to fail

                        ... said the multi-millionaire.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by tHa_KhAn View Post
                          The problem with most of these rally's is the general public can't identify with those at the rally.
                          You been to any of 'em? Because the percentage of people who ARE normal was a hell of a lot higher in DC than the pictures of DC showed. Just saying.

                          And thanks for posting those charts, Whiskey. I've been posting them everywhere I can, too.
                          I can ADS using more than a 2x without significant stutter! This was a good patch.

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                            Originally posted by Razcsak View Post
                            You been to any of 'em? Because the percentage of people who ARE normal was a hell of a lot higher in DC than the pictures of DC showed.
                            If driving by qualifies as been, then yes I have been to the local. I love this media coverage of these things. I work for the "good" guys a regional financial institution, a credit union to be exact. It is ridiculous the business we have been getting from people moving financial platforms from the banks lately. My 401K salutes you, protestors :) I'll salute you protestors if our Christmas party includes an open bar.
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by tHa_KhAn View Post
                              In my city it is just a bunch of a hippies and people who don't use banks in the first place doing the "occupy." It's the same group that participates in all the rally's, all 20 of them. The problem with most of these rally's is the general public can't identify with those at the rally.
                              Lmao where do you live? Media misrepresenting anything gives a distorted view that the ignorant will believe, I mean why would they lie?

                              Originally posted by HiTest View Post
                              Enlighten me, you quote "We are the 99% and we are to big to fail.", what are "we to big to fail" at?
                              I saw it on a protesters sign and found it quite fitting as the 99% are by far a larger body of people then the richest 1% but the banks where the only ones to get bailout money because of there idea that they where to big to fail. Sadly though we have failed and thats why we are where we are today.

                              Originally posted by TheFatKidDeath View Post
                              Thank God for the parasites.
                              WOW! I find your post very, I can't find the right word, all I can do is shake my head in disbelief. That is one of the most hateful ignorant comments I have heard in a while. Rush is on my top 10 list of people I would love to slap in the face TWICE! I really hope you don't think an old WWII vet in his last minutes of life is a parasite. In order to be a parasite you must benefit from the host, people that are without like the ones trying to find a job, health care, ect.. are not. On the other hand Rush, banks and the like are the parasites cause they are not lacking and are sucking the life out of and effecting people's minds just like a parasite might. Thank goodness I am immune, please for your sake go get vaccinated.

                              I have been an artist all my life, and maybe I see things a little differently (says my wife) so I try to understand that some people just are confused, missinformed, or just ignorant in these matters. I am ignorant in many aspects, but I can also see the grand picture painted before me. I can't tell you what brush was used or the technique to which was applied to create it. I can tell you when I look at it, it makes me feel sad, angry, and sometimes hopeless. What gives me hope is the fact that together we can paint a new masterpeice, one not created buy corruption and greed, but one through understanding and compassion for others.
                              I am not arguing for the lazy misguided leaches that are a burden of society. I am not angry at those who where fortunate. I do not dispise the ones who have succeded in there life. Like much of the media keeps regurgitating that these protesters are complaining against. I understand many people are busy trying to provide for there families the best way they can and not all are in the loop. But these colors on this painting that I am looking at are fading and becoming more black and white everyday.

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