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    Just watched a video on CNN (title "Controversial sex sting goes all the way") about a county prosecutor in Virginia that sends cops to a massage parlor to pay for, and receive, oral sex. His reasoning is that using marked money and nabbing the prostitutes with it afterward is the only valid way to catch them, since cops can't wear a wire when they're naked. He also compared it to cops buying drugs, and said it was completely legit.

    All, "Man those are lucky police officers," comments aside, what do you guys think about this tactic? Too far?
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    Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

    Yes, WAY to far!!! There should be boundries as far as entrapment is concerned.

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      Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

      From what little information is here there is no entrapment. However, this does cross an ethical line. Not only as police officers but also as husbands (if they are). Yeah, too far.
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        It's going to far. It's not necessary under law to actually commit the act. We just had a local sex sting case here and the officers only needed to make the call, have someone agree to the act and payment, then show up for it.

        It is an excellent way to recruit for the police force, however... to some. "Must be willing to have sex with prostitutes."

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        • #5
          Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

          Not if you have actually seen the prostitutes.




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          • #6
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            Typical hypocrisy. Just like the cops that stake out a strip club for weeks (at taxpayers expense) just to bust a few women, often with the only charge being indecent exposure.

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            • #7
              Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

              Originally posted by Pickle
              Not only as police officers but also as husbands (if they are).
              The video said they only use single officers, so at least there's that much decency.

              Originally posted by AMosely
              officers only needed to make the call, have someone agree to the act and payment, then show up for it.
              They kinda explained that they didn't do that because "prositutes are careful to not say anything that can incriminate them".
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                I'm ok with it as long as they stop before it is "done". :p
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                • #9
                  Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

                  If an undercover agent had to do a line of coke or inject himself with heroine to protect his cover for a huge operation that was designed to take down an entire drug cartel or something on a very large scale, than I can accept it.

                  But for a low level sex sting? I think that's crossing the line. I realize I'm kind of creating a slippery slope with this argument, but that's where I stand as of now.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

                    Hmmm...

                    I've heard of cops that have had to "endure" the whole treatment in order not to blow their cover on a larger operation, but I've never heard of them intentionally "consummating" the business deal as a matter of course. It's usually not necessary, as even an unwritten and nonverbal agreement can still be proof of prostitution. It's the intent that matters, at least in many states...

                    I don't necessarily think that there's anything ethically wrong with this, but I don't think it's necessary. It's also very unsafe.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

                      Originally posted by Delta_Swift
                      If an undercover agent had to do a line of coke or inject himself with heroine to protect his cover for a huge operation that was designed to take down an entire drug cartel or something on a very large scale, than I can accept it.

                      But for a low level sex sting? I think that's crossing the line. I realize I'm kind of creating a slippery slope with this argument, but that's where I stand as of now.
                      agreed...


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                      • #12
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                        I think most if not all people would agree with you Cing. I also don't think it is a slippery slope. If a police officer is in such a position that he has to take drugs or be found out he is most likely with the worst of the worst.

                        Whereas many people consider prostitution a victimless crime.
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                          Originally posted by Spotsylvania Commonwealth's Attorney William F. Neely
                          Neely has said authorities wanted to obtain evidence for a felony sex crime, rather than a misdemeanor prostitution charge arising from a verbal agreement, as authorities seek to shut down what they describe as a sophisticated money-laundering operation. He notes that authorities have been able to seize the assets of such business in similar cases in the past few years
                          Link here.

                          I don't have a problem with this. This is very different from an entrapment case. These women were doing this whether an officer walked in or not. The officers did not have to solicit anything out of the ordinary. Sounds like the officer even halted the activity when it was clear that it would proceed down that road. And if this house of ill repute is truly tied to a larger criminal activity, then it is much more like using tax evasion to nabb Al Capone than setting up a crack party to nabb Marion Barry.

                          Plus, per the picture Pickle posted, that chick is naaaaaassty. These cops should get combat pay.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sex sting, where police actually have oral sex

                            Originally posted by Pickle
                            Whereas many people consider prostitution a victimless crime.
                            Like me. And drugs as well. This wouldn't even be an issue if consensual acts were left alone. We don't ban kissing booths at fairs. We don't ban porn. They're both sex acts performed for money, even if with the latter no contact is involved with person on the other side of the camera. These people are providing a service, just like a mechanic or a waitress, entertaining and providing pleasure, just like an actor or a writer.

                            Check out the book From Cop to Call Girl by one sex worker who later ran for public office. (I voted for her.)

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                              I'm sure they only use 'volunteers' and would never force a police officer to do this. The county would have a huge legal case against it if they did. I'm sure they had plenty of volunteers to choose from.
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