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    http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

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      ass kicked there google!

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        Didn't we have a long debate over this a few weeks ago? I can understand why the government wants to update the law, but google's stance is justified IMO.

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          Re: Government 1, Google 0

          From the article:

          Ultimately, the government planned to select a random sample of 1,000 search requests previously made at Google and re-enter them in the search engine, according to a sworn declaration by Philip Stark, a statistics professor at the University of California, Berkeley who is helping the Justice Department in the case.

          The government believes the test will show how easily it is to get around filtering software that's supposed to prevent children from seeing sexually explicit material on the Web.
          What filtering software are they talking about? The results filters that Google provides (and that I routinely disable)? Or something else?
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            I'd imagine they're talking about the retail software found at CompUSA, Fry's, Amazon, etc.
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            • #7
              Re: Government 1, Google 0

              Originally posted by ScratchMonkey
              What filtering software are they talking about? The results filters that Google provides (and that I routinely disable)? Or something else?
              They're talking about any of the commercially available software/freeware, such as NetNanny and all that junk. They could just load all that stuff up on a machine and have a few people type in common search words for a day, but instead they'd rather force Google to give up search info. Lazy and intrusive, not to mention that it speaks of having shady motives to begin with.
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                And I thought that random samples of Google searches were already available to the public?
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                  Re: Government 1, Google 0

                  yeah you can go on to the site, cant remember the exact site, but it will show you the top searches for the day or what not. Im not really sure why the government actually cares about this, from what ive heard that dont want names just the search history to see if people are using google to search for bombs and such. I havent heard of any other search engine being pressured by the government to hand over records.
                  that sounds like a good idea trooper.
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                    Re: Government 1, Google 0

                    Originally posted by Trooper[SNPR]
                    I havent heard of any other search engine being pressured by the government to hand over records.
                    MSN, Yahoo, and pretty much every other search engine has already complied with the government's request. Google was the only holdout that I knew of.
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                      Re: Government 1, Google 0

                      okay thanks for the correction, i wasnt sure.
                      that sounds like a good idea trooper.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Government 1, Google 0

                        Originally posted by SmokingTarpan
                        MSN, Yahoo, and pretty much every other search engine has already complied with the government's request. Google was the only holdout that I knew of.
                        Right. Google will make this principled stand, where it costs them little, but will allow their Chinese users to take one for the team when it helps feed the kitty.

                        I don't have any sympathy for google in this case. If they'd stuck to their guns with the Chinese government, maybe.

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                          50,000 Web addresses and 5,000 random search requests from Google,
                          That doesn't seem to say what they really want. They want to know what people are searching for on google, specifically what they type.


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                            Re: Government 1, Google 0

                            Originally posted by leejo
                            Right. Google will make this principled stand, where it costs them little, but will allow their Chinese users to take one for the team when it helps feed the kitty.

                            I don't have any sympathy for google in this case. If they'd stuck to their guns with the Chinese government, maybe.
                            You may be right about the money angle. Google is a publicly-traded company after all.

                            Here's another way to look at it. Google knows that the Chinese government doesn't care much for privacy or freedom so they didn't fight the Chinese government because they knew they would lose. In this case they might have thought that the American government cared about those things so they thought it was worth trying to fight.

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                              Wouldnt those 50,000 web addresses have to give the google permission to use in this government "study". And would be funny to just see google send the government 5,000 random bad spelling searches.
                              that sounds like a good idea trooper.
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