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    House Bill Could Cripple Internet Gambling

    This is purely anecdotal, but it seems that the vast majority of people I've known to be into internet gambling were Republicans in one way or another - whether they were active Republican apologists, little-r republicans, or just ended up voting Republican because they hated the Democrats. Not that I carried out a poll of everyone I knew, it just seemed to work out that way.

    I would categorize this as one of the worst potential election year decisions for the Republicans; of course, it probably wouldn't come into effect until January '07, so maybe I'm not giving the guys and gals in office enough credit. ;)
    A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek

    "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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    Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

    Originally posted by xTYBALTx
    House Bill Could Cripple Internet Gambling

    This is purely anecdotal, but it seems that the vast majority of people I've known to be into internet gambling were Republicans in one way or another - whether they were active Republican apologists, little-r republicans, or just ended up voting Republican because they hated the Democrats. Not that I carried out a poll of everyone I knew, it just seemed to work out that way.

    I would categorize this as one of the worst potential election year decisions for the Republicans; of course, it probably wouldn't come into effect until January '07, so maybe I'm not giving the guys and gals in office enough credit. ;)
    Actually, it's a gift back to the base. Think about it: all of the "legitimate" gambling operations would suddenly be back in the game.

    Open an account with MGM Grand Entertainment, and then you could deposit your winnings, or debit your losses, from that account-there are no credit cards, and no wire transfers. The outfits that would get hurt are Vegas' unregulated and offshore rivals.

    It's a handout.

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      Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

      It also allows them to play the holier-than-Bill-Bennett card. That usually plays well in the proverbial sticks.
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        Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

        Mateo -

        Is that true? We'll still be able to gamble online if we deposited the money at a brick and mortar casino?
        A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek

        "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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          Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

          Originally posted by xTYBALTx
          Mateo -

          Is that true? We'll still be able to gamble online if we deposited the money at a brick and mortar casino?
          Yeah, I think that's the way around the bill. The bill bars credit card payments, but says nothing about brick and mortar deposits.

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            Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

            I know that inter-state wire transfers for gambling were banned in the seventies or eighties. The current bill deals with check and credit card, correct? Where did you hear about a way around the new laws?*


            *It's technically already illegal to use CC's, or so I read in one of today's articles on the subject... this bill is just "reaffirming" existing law.
            A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek

            "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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              Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

              Originally posted by xTYBALTx
              I know that inter-state wire transfers for gambling were banned in the seventies or eighties. The current bill deals with check and credit card, correct? Where did you hear about a way around the new laws?*


              *It's technically already illegal to use CC's, or so I read in one of today's articles on the subject... this bill is just "reaffirming" existing law.
              That's right, you can't wire money transfers for gambling.The loophole has been: it's illegal withing the contiguous states.....but that does not cover the Caymans, where alot of the online gambling outfits are incorporated. This closes the loophole.

              Last time I was in Vegas, MGM was trying to get people to leave their winnings on account-that makes perfect sense if you are a habitual gambler, or plan on returning to the same Casino. Makes sense for the Casino as well.

              Thinking about it, the one way you could get around the wire transfer is...if your money was already on account at the gambling establishment.

              How hard would it be for a casino to offer a dedicated account? How hard would it be to create BellagioOnline.com?

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                Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

                The real issue is tax revenue, as usual.

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                  Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

                  So Joe Blo from Kansas is going to have to travel all the way to New Jersey or Nevada to re-up his account? I still don't see how this will play well to the Republican base...
                  A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek

                  "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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                    Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

                    Ha, Take that you evangelical Gamblers!

                    Anyone find demographics on gamblers? All I can find are older studies, but I think gambling actually tends towards women (reading 55-60% women, middle age 45-50, median income roughly $45000) and apart from destination mecca's (Atlantic city/Vegas) tends to draw in from highly urban areas.

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                      Re: Republicans further alienate their base?

                      Yeah, but I feel like online gambling is pretty popular in more rural and red areas - and among men. Especially games like poker.
                      A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek

                      "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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