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    For my sins. I now work in the county of Wiltshire (the North West bit, that borders Somerset). Which isn't that far from Bristol (which used to be in the county of Avon, which apparently doesnt exist anymore).

    Our area comes under "HTV West" (the local TV station, in case our American cousins are wondering what I am wittering on about).

    Any road up. All this week, they have been reporting on how much the city of Bristol played a major part in the Slave Trade of the late 17th and early 18th Century. (Used to ship them all out to the Americas). More to the point, how the country (the UK) should apologise, for its participation in human trafficking, and shipping the slaves out.

    Well. Sorry to rain on HTV's parade, but I am not my (fore)fathers keeper. I don't hear the Italians apologising for the way Rome treated its slaves. Nor Kubla Khan, from Mongolia, (who would rather stick an hot pocker up their bum holes). Would the Spartans like to chip in to this debate? The Greeks? Phoenicians? The Egyptians? Incas (who just so happened held you down over an oblong stone, and ripped your beating heart out)?
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    Re: Chicken George = Slavery

    Originally posted by Buccaneer View Post
    Incas (who just so happened held you down over an oblong stone, and ripped your beating heart out)?
    I never knew "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" was so culturally accurate....

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    • #3
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      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/peru/wo...acrifice1.html
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      • #4
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        Originally posted by thebleakaffinity View Post
        I never knew "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" was so culturally accurate....
        Haha... very nice!

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        • #5
          Re: Chicken George = Slavery

          You speak about slavery as if it happened thousands of years ago, but the white man's burden isn't so far removed from cultural memory in the UK, Africa and here in North America. I have no strong opinion about apologizing for the past, as apologies are rather shallow opposed to discussing what needs to be done to address issues around social inequality.

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          • #6
            Re: Chicken George = Slavery

            Not one of you Canadians or Americans has apologised yet for having a Slave in your lineage. America was Bristols biggest customer!

            Tut.
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            • #7
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              Buccaneer, as you said , we are not our forefathers keepers and therefore feel no need to apologize for things that were done in the past that were so heinous that they are now recognized the world over as being inhumane. My great x5 (not going to say it 5 times) Grandfather was General Robert E. Lee. He led the south, the nation that was fighting FOR slavery. Does that mean that I, his descendant, am culpable for the wrongdoings of his generation? No. Thinking otherwise is absurd.

              I feel the burden of history and look at it as a dark time not only for the United States, but the entire world that was involved in the trade of human beings. That doesnt mean that I have the need to express an apology. It's a terrible atrocity that is now long since gone and anyone who would expect an apology needs to realize that nobody here has ever owned a slave, nobody here has ever sold slaves, nobody here has ever kidnapped people for purposes of slavery and therefore nobody here has ever participated in the act and has nothing to be sorry about. The best apology we can offer is to ensure that it never happens again.

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              • #8
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                Yup, I agree. It's some BS. I'm not going to apologize as a white man for something my family or current generation had nothing to do with. Some of my lineage is from German Jews fleeing Hitlers reign. I've never even thought of asking for an apology from a single German with regard to something that happened over 60 years ago. That was a whole different generation. Even if my great great great grandfather had slaves, which he didn't, I still wouldn't apologize because I'M not the guilty one. Besides, why tear open old wounds?

                You wanna see apologies? Why not go talk to some African countries who still run around commiting genocide and enslaving their own fellow man. Or talk to some South-east Asian countries who currently have the worlds largest sex-slave industry. There's not much that is as bad as a 7 year old boy being sold around and getting poked by horny gay europeans. I'm not picking on europeans, but I've witnessed some horrible stuff in Thailand and mostly with european tourists (PLEASE DON'T TAKE OFFENSE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OF YOU). I saw a gay german couple with a little boy escorting them and giving them massages at a bar. Little girls are traded just the same. Often times, families are so poor they will sell their children. Now that deserves an apology. Especially since it's still happening.
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                • #9
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                  There is something to be said for a STATE or governmental body officially apologizing or renouncing a now-outmoded evil. If nations are entities with a lifespan and a memory beyond that of its mortal constituents, then they retain some responsibility or at least taint for the evils committed under their banners. The prosperity many of us enjoy today was built upon many triumphs and many sins of those who came before us and shared our allegiances. Even if an outright apology scathes the ego and comes to little in practical terms, there is no harm in at least recognizing the turns of history and it's consequences for the present. In fact, we should be doing that constantly.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Chicken George = Slavery

                    Originally posted by Comrade Franko View Post
                    *snip*
                    the white man's burden
                    *snip*
                    Ya, find something wrong and blame it on The (EVIL!)White Man™


                    For those who can't be bothered to follow the link:
                    Anthony Johnson (? - 1670) was an early black resident of the Virginia Colony.

                    ...

                    In 1654, John Casor of Northampton County in the Virginia Colony became the first person now known from the legal records of the Thirteen Colonies to be declared a slave for life.

                    ....

                    According to the earliest known court records, slavery was first established in Virginia in 1654, when Johnson convinced the court in Northampton County that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, also a black man.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Chicken George = Slavery

                      On behalf of all Canadians, I apologize for the fact that you are being asked to apologize for something you didn't do.
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                      • #12
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                        Apologize? Hell, I'm still trying to wipe out the slave trade. It's alive and well in America, folks.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Chicken George = Slavery

                          Originally posted by Ferris Bueller View Post
                          My great x5 (not going to say it 5 times) Grandfather was General Robert E. Lee.
                          Are you serious?! Holy [censored], we've got a celebrity on our hands!
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                          • #14
                            Re: Chicken George = Slavery

                            Originally posted by ednos View Post
                            Are you serious?! Holy [censored], we've got a celebrity on our hands!
                            I saw your comment and thought you were quoting Cing.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Chicken George = Slavery

                              Yeah, I can see that as problematic. Delete my post if it gets in the way; it's not important.
                              The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~
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