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    The U.S. is considered a mixed economy. An economy that contains both private-owned and state-owned enterprises or that combines elements of capitalism and socialism. With all this gibber jabber about socialized armageddon and the constant nudging for the libertarianized freedom of the American people. I would like to know what is on the brochure before I buy. I don't want to hear about outdated puritanical laws such as drug laws, sex trade laws (unless it's about Jessica Alba), and gambling laws. I think everyone is in agreement that they are horse malarkey.

    Here are a few examples of Pharaohs dirty work, what enterprises would be better suited completely privatized? Or which ones are you not willing to pay for? I for one would not like to suffer through my privately owned sewage treatment plant going bankrupt.

    Some examples of this include:

    * People can own their own businesses, but political leaders make policies concerning these.
    * The government controls the mail system.
    * The government controls most of the road networks.
    * Waste collection and treatment are usually provided as a service by the local government.
    * The government has a virtual monopoly on the provision of policing.
    * Intercity passenger rail (Amtrak) is a nationalized industry, as are almost all local trains.
    * All American airports are government operated but all American airlines are private.
    * The government tells manufacturers what to make if something is in need during war time.
    * The FDA bans certain drugs.
    * The government has created a minimum wage law.
    * The government provides social welfare payments to some citizens.
    * The majority of pre-college education is government-provided and a large part of tertiary education is run by state governments.

    with tax-funded, subsidized, or state-owned factors of production, infrastructure, and services:

    * libraries and other information services
    * roads and other transportation services
    * schools and other education services
    * hospitals and other health services
    * banks and other financial services
    * telephone, mail and other communication services
    * electricity and other energy services (eg oil, gas)
    * water systems for drinking, agriculture, and waste disposal
    * subsidies to agriculture and other businesses
    * government-granted monopolies to otherwise private businesses
    * legal assistance

    and providing some autonomy over personal finances but including involuntary spending and investments such as transfer payments and other cash benefits such as:

    * welfare for the poor
    * social security for the aged and infirm
    * government subsidies to business
    * mandatory insurance (example: automobile}

    and restricted by various laws, regulations:

    * environmental regulation (example: toxins in land, water, air)
    * labor regulation including minimum wage laws
    * consumer regulation (example: product safety)
    * antitrust laws
    * intellectual property laws
    * incorporation laws
    * protectionism
    * import and export controls, such as tarrifs and quotas

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    Re: The Mixed US Economy

    I've never seen regulation, antitrust laws, or trade policy as antithetical to capitalism. I do think that it is government's appropriate role to create the infrastructure and environment within which business can be successful. I suppose one might argue that making armed robbery illegal is a form of socialism, but I wouldn't make that argument. Nor do I accept that my opposition to armed robbery is tacit acceptance of socialism.

    Using your sewage treatment plant example, I think that government can certainly privatize that industry while also providing a backstop to ensure continued operations regardless of the service-provider's continued solvency. The recent Bear Stearns bail-out-by-proxy and FDIC are examples of how the private banking industry is backstopped by the Fed. In 2002 there was a massive Airline industry bailout. The list goes on.

    This is still a LONG way from a single-payer banking system, or a single-payer airline industry, or a single-payer medical system.

    Is there a role for socialized medicine in this country? Absolutely, and it exists today in the form of social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. In 2006, these three programs totaled 40% of the federal budget and we're only beginning to see the impact of the boomers' retirement on that figure. Throw in the additional 9% of the federal budget on interest. Anyone who's ever fallen behind the curve on credit card debt knows how that interest payment can get out of hand very fast.

    The simple-minded answer is to say well hey we'll just tax more. Meanwhile the big money moves to Dubai, so you get zero taxes from those sources. If you raise taxes enough, eventually you have to build a giant wall around the country to keep people IN.

    So no, I don't think more socialism is going to save the medical system in this country. I don't mind at all that my taxes pay to keep grandma's prescriptions filled or to treat sick indigent children. But I also remember when insurance didn't cover Dr. visits or prescriptions or physical therapy. Health insurance used to be about risk management - the Oh Christ Dad needs open heart surgery scenario, not Oh Christ dad has a runny nose scenario. Back then, insurance was pretty cheap! Emergency rooms were for emergencies, too. I worked in an ER in college and the vast majority of cases we saw were people with the flu or wanting drugs.

    That experience made Andy Grove's article catch my attention and get my support. His idea is to place one of those 24-hour care centers next to ERs and have a triage center divert non-critical care to those centers. Using an ER to treat strep throat is like using a Carrier Battle Group to deliver a package. Kinda. Roll with it.

    OK that's my manifesto for this morning. Back to my little cabin to build bombs.

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    • #3
      Re: The Mixed US Economy

      There's a difference between libertarian and libertine. The libertarian requires responsibility and protection from force and fraud. A free market doesn't allow theft, because that's a violation of an individual's right to control his own property.

      Libertarians object to forcing individuals to do what they don't want to do. Government's job is exactly that. The private sector can't make you do something. At best, they can withhold what they previously gave you or haven't yet given you. So the question is really what things you can legitimately make people do against their will.
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        Re: The Mixed US Economy

        Originally posted by leejo View Post

        Using your sewage treatment plant example, I think that government can certainly privatize that industry while also providing a backstop to ensure continued operations regardless of the service-provider's continued solvency. The recent Bear Stearns bail-out-by-proxy and FDIC are examples of how the private banking industry is backstopped by the Fed. In 2002 there was a massive Airline industry bailout. The list goes on.

        This is still a LONG way from a single-payer banking system, or a single-payer airline industry, or a single-payer medical system.
        Single airline hmmmm.....The government is blocking budget European airlines from coming over here. Then we are supposed to think the government is bailing out the airlines for the good of the people? Let them fall and let easyjet move in. They are protecting big business and the people are getting fu**** twice. Once by having their taxes used to pay for corporate bonuses and secondly by high ticket prices. I'm not interested in being gouged by the sewage treatment plant while they sending kickbacks to politicians.

        Originally posted by leejo View Post
        Is there a role for socialized medicine in this country? Absolutely, and it exists today in the form of social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. In 2006, these three programs totaled 40% of the federal budget and we're only beginning to see the impact of the boomers' retirement on that figure. Throw in the additional 9% of the federal budget on interest. Anyone who's ever fallen behind the curve on credit card debt knows how that interest payment can get out of hand very fast.
        Lowering taxes while generating a massive deficit is faustian a bargain. Inflation will bite our ass for years to come. We will pay much more in the end.

        Why do we have to raise taxes? I don't care what spending needs to be cut (lets start with the ridiculous war), the most important thing in life is health. Not making money. If you could sit on a mountain top with all the money in the world and watch mankind suffer below, would you do it?

        Originally posted by leejo View Post
        So no, I don't think more socialism is going to save the medical system in this country.
        If someone is willing to pay $60,000 and there is no other choice so they pay it. I would not say that the free market is setting the price. It's simply gouging. There is no reason it should cost that much. It seems like the government only steps in when corporate profits are in trouble. Banks, airlines, oranges.

        We are all in it to make as much money as we can. That guy holding the checkbook is the whore. Get in line boys we are all going to get rich.

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        • #5
          Re: The Mixed US Economy

          Originally posted by Hambergler View Post
          Single airline hmmmm.....The government is blocking budget European airlines from coming over here. Then we are supposed to think the government is bailing out the airlines for the good of the people? Let them fall and let easyjet move in. They are protecting big business and the people are getting fu**** twice. Once by having their taxes used to pay for corporate bonuses and secondly by high ticket prices. I'm not interested in being gouged by the sewage treatment plant while they sending kickbacks to politicians.
          I have no idea how many cans of worms you open up with foreign carriers operating US domestic flights, but I doubt the situation is as simple as the gov't protecting big business.

          Lowering taxes while generating a massive deficit is faustian a bargain. Inflation will bite our ass for years to come. We will pay much more in the end.
          Maybe. Like a mortgage? I exchange a higher price tag for an affordable monthly payment? Since the value of the property will keep going up forever, how can I lose?! :D

          Seriously, I don't necessarily mind passing off the price tag until later if it prevents massive problems today. Give me a little time and maybe I can figure something out in the meantime.

          Why do we have to raise taxes? I don't care what spending needs to be cut (lets start with the ridiculous war), the most important thing in life is health. Not making money. If you could sit on a mountain top with all the money in the world and watch mankind suffer below, would you do it?
          Depends. Can I bring my bitches and coirvoissier with me? Cause that's how I roll.

          If someone is willing to pay $60,000 and there is no other choice so they pay it. I would not say that the free market is setting the price. It's simply gouging. There is no reason it should cost that much. It seems like the government only steps in when corporate profits are in trouble. Banks, airlines, oranges.
          Sure, but if it costs $60k and the profit is good, I promise you within 12 months you'll see 10 IPOs for people trying to get a slice of that pie. Competition will drive the price down. It always does in a free market.

          We are all in it to make as much money as we can. That guy holding the checkbook is the whore. Get in line boys we are all going to get rich.
          Stop calling me a whore!

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          • #6
            This is one of the most simply complex issues facing mankind today - it's far from being understood, let alone mastered.

            I certainly don't have the winning combination, but there's plenty of evidence of failure on both sides. Privitazation doesn't always guarantee efficiency or a total lack of public good/interest. Public ownership or control doesn't always guarantee mismanagement or total public good/interest.

            For private ownership, look at the U.S. tobacco industry and its eventual settlement - purposefully trying to conceal the truth about health effects. Take a look at the recent lending troubles and how they effected the banking industry - it's still debatable whether the ultimate price of this (the Fed's 'backstop) was worth the lack of regulation that led to it.

            For public ownership, look at the earthquake in China - buildings built by the national government stood, while buildings built under local government (like schools) abysmally failed. In America, look at the nation's passenger rail system, Amtrak - a consistent failure in public operation that has spanned decades. Many more public programs and systems, like Medicare/Medicaid, fall under the 'broken' category as well.

            As some have already said, regulation is the tool that, when used properly, can account for the shortcomings of either approach. Therefore, I would argue that the success of either (private vs. public enterprise) depends on the presence of effective regulation.

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            • #7
              Re: The Mixed US Economy

              it may be mixed but if you asked any citizen in any third world or communist country that if they wanted to they would be allowed to enter the united states, they would faster than you can say "walk right through here".

              Its time to give less the to subsidized farming and more to the truckers who haul the goods, The economy is getting better, the Stock Exchange has been doing better since the Bear Sterns debacle (the amazing this is that, on that day billons were made off of the demise of Bear Sterns), I might also invest in Nvidia they could put themself in a position to be a good hot stock.

              The US will always have a deficit.........i honestly highly doubt that it will ever be paid off.....if anyone can truly see where it could be paid off let me know, and just don't say "well if we didn't have huge defensive budgets blah blah blah"

              I just hope that people pay attention, and don't let milk or bread or rice get any higher.....nevermind gas I don't want to drink milk that will only give me a few quarters back from a $5 dollar bill after buying a gallon.
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                anyone want to start a revolution and bring this nation down to its knees by anarchy where we will swim in the jewels and dollars of this nation and feast off the fat of the land and everyone will control the roads of the USA And the FDA and everyone will answer to US!!! I want you all the get mad as hell!!!!

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                  Re: The Mixed US Economy

                  Hamberger, your first post reminded me of an Uncommon Knowledge interview with Milton Friedman from several years ago. I went back and watched it again, and the following amusing exchange relates to this thread:

                  ROBINSON I have a list here of the 14 cabinet departments, now 14 is a lot for television so I want to just to go right down the list quickly and have you give me a thumbs up or thumbs down, keep them or abolish them? Department of Agriculture?

                  FRIEDMAN Abolish.

                  ROBINSON Gone. Department of Commerce?

                  FRIEDMAN Abolish.

                  ROBINSON Gone. Department of Defense?

                  FRIEDMAN Keep.

                  ROBINSON Keep it? Department of Education?

                  FRIEDMAN Abolish.

                  ROBINSON Gone. Energy?

                  FRIEDMAN Abolish. Except that energy ties in with military.

                  ROBINSON Well then we shove it under defense, the little bit that handles the nuclear, plutonium and so forth goes under Defense but we abolish the rest of it. Health and Human Services?

                  FRIEDMAN There is room for some public health activities to prevent contagion, such a thing as for example..

                  ROBINSON So you keep the National Institute of Health say and Center for Disease Control..

                  FRIEDMAN No, no, no those are mostly research agencies..No, no that's a question of whether the government should be involved in financing research.

                  ROBINSON And the answer is no?

                  FRIEDMAN Well that's a very complicated issue and it's not an easy answer with respect to that.

                  ROBINSON We'll eliminate half of the Department of Health and Human Services?

                  FRIEDMAN Yes, something like that..

                  ROBINSON OK one half. Housing and Urban Development?

                  FRIEDMAN No.

                  ROBINSON Didn't even pause over that one..Department of the Interior?

                  FRIEDMAN Oh but Housing and Urban Development has done a enormous amount of harm. My god, if you think of the way in which they've destroyed parts of cities under the rubric of eliminating slums. You remember Martin Anderson wrote a book on the federal bulldozer describing the effect of the urban development. There've been many more dwelling units torn down in the name of public housing than have been built.

                  ROBINSON Jack Kemp has proposed selling to the current inhabitants of public housing their unit- their townhouse, their apartment for a dollar apiece and just shifting the ownership to the people who live..

                  FRIEDMAN If you got rid of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, it would be worth doing that.

                  ROBINSON Alright, done. That's gone. Department of the Interior, your beloved national park service?

                  FRIEDMAN Well, given the problem there is you first have to sell off all the land that the government owns but that's what you should do.. [ROBINSON But it could be done pretty quickly..] It could be done, you should do that, there's no reason for the government to own...the government now owns something like 1/3 of all the land in the country.

                  ROBINSON And that's too much, should go down to zero.

                  FRIEDMAN Should go down, well not entirely zero. They ought to own the land on which government buildings are on.

                  ROBINSON Ok, terrific. Department of Justice?

                  FRIEDMAN Oh yes, keep that one.

                  ROBINSON Labor?

                  FRIEDMAN No.

                  ROBINSON Gone. State?

                  FRIEDMAN Keep.

                  ROBINSON Keep it. Transportation?

                  FRIEDMAN Gone.

                  ROBINSON Gone. The Treasury?

                  FRIEDMAN You have to keep it to collect taxes.

                  ROBINSON Alright collect taxes through the Treasury. Veteran's Affairs?

                  FRIEDMAN You can regard the Veteran Affairs as a way of paying essentially salaries for services of those who've been in the armed forces but you ought to be able to get rid of it. [ROBINSON Pay it off?] Pay it off.

                  ROBINSON Pay off lump sums perhaps, and just get rid of it. OK Milton Friedman, if you are made dictator for one day, the next day..

                  FRIEDMAN No, no I don't want to be made dictator. I don't believe in dictators. I believe we want to bring about change by the agreement for the citizens, I don't believe in...If we can't persuade the public that it's desirable to do these things, we have no right to impose them even if we have the power to do it.

                  ROBINSON From 14 departments down to 4 Ĺ .

                  FRIEDMAN Basic fundamental functions, what are its fundamental functions? To preserve the peace, defend the country, provide a mechanism whereby individuals can adjudicate their disputes, that's the Justice Department, protect individuals from being coerced by other individuals, the policing function, and now this is both the central government and the state and local government. The police function is primarily local and central. And those are the fundamental functions of government in my opinion.
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                  • #10
                    Re: The Mixed US Economy

                    There has been talk in this thread of a government provided "backstop" for companies which provide essential functions such as garbage pickup and disposal/storage/recycling, human waste treatment, and similar functions. I think there are a couple of points which should be made regarding these.

                    1) I have never lived in a city in the USA in which the garbage was picked up by a government entity. Garbage is typically picked up and taken care of by private companies [such at this one - it may look familiar]. Now, these companies may get special treatment from local governments. But insofar as special treatment is provided, I would imagine it's pretty much a bad thing - I'd rather have several garbage companies competing for my money than one lazy company. Now, with garbage, I also don't want five trucks from five companies driving down my street every week full of crappy smelling stuff. So maybe it's better to have only one company. Or maybe different communities can have different servicers and be able to switch between them at their convenience - that way you get only one truck driving down my street per week, but I still get competition as well.

                    2) Sewage treatment. Again, I believe these are at least (sometimes?) controlled by private companies. You get the same problem you have with cable providers, however: Only one servicer can function in a given area because it's a bit of a pain in the ass to install two or more sets of sewage lines in my house and community. So hey, what ya gonna do.

                    3) "Backstops" for necessities. Already provided for. And not only for necessities. Almost every company is backstopped by a little thing called bankruptcy protection. For those who aren't familiar with bankruptcy protection, the basic gist is that a company continues functioning and providing its' service until one of the following occurs: A) It gets back on its' feet, B) It is bought by a better company, or C) It is liquidated. Now, in the case of your garbage company, the judge handling the bankruptcy case will appoint a new manager(s) to run the company until something is worked out - we don't want to liquidate a company which provides essential services. This is extremely routine, and the judge-appointed manager(s) can remain in charge for years. Additionally, all companies in bankruptcy are required to receive the same services from their business partners as before - so, for instance, a trucking company may not cease carrying a producers' products simply because the producer has run out of money and can no longer pay its' bills.

                    So no, government ownership of "essentials" is not required to assure a steady supply of whatever essential is at hand. In fact, government ownership is probably the last thing you should want if you want a steady supply of these essentials. After all, who would you trust more to deliver water during a catastrophe - the Federal Government or Wal-Mart? Who has more incentive to bring me water?
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                    • #11
                      Re: The Mixed US Economy

                      Originally posted by xTYBALTx View Post
                      Now, with garbage, I also don't want five trucks from five companies driving down my street every week full of crappy smelling stuff. So maybe it's better to have only one company.
                      Every day I see a lot of trucks on my street. Fed Ex, UPS, DHL, Alhambra (bottled water), the cable and phone companies.... Why should I care if one more truck from a rival garbage company shows up? They already roll two separate trucks for garbage and recycle/compost (blue/green cans on alternate weeks).

                      Competition doesn't just mean lower prices. It also means more services, possibly new services. Breaking up ATT added a huge number of local services previously available maybe to the ultra-rich, like touch tone (which was in a holding pattern with pulse significantly cheaper) caller ID, call waiting, plus the ability to plug your own phone into their line, one with its own litany of features.

                      Those new services help a company differentiate itself from being a commodity supplier, allowing it to charge more for innovations it has a "monopoly" on. Over time, other suppliers supply the same services and the price for those come down and companies must find new ways to innovate so they'll have a new monopoly to net them high margins.
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                      • #12
                        Re: The Mixed US Economy

                        Just having a single provider for a given area does not mean there was no competition...companies compete for contracts all the time. Look at how much money defense contractors will sink into development of a new jet that may never be purchased.
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                          Re: The Mixed US Economy

                          Small, especially rural, communities often supplied their own garbage collection. The reason is because there is not enough profit to be made from 500 households out in the middle of nowhere.

                          Now, oddly enough, some of the governmental regulations passed regarding how garbage can be legally disposed of created a opportunity for private companies. Often rural communities dug a big hole and dumped it in there. That is why private companies where not viable. It doesn't cost much to do this.

                          But with the new regulations garbage had to be disposed of properly to contain toxins and whatnot from getting in the ground water. Small towns couldn't really afford to do this. Large companies could now enter these markets because they already had the infrastructure to cope with the regulations. Sometimes private companies don't even drive around and pick up the garbage, all they do is provide drop off points for municipalities.

                          Another thing. At my last house I lived right on the edge of a town so I didn't get their garbage service. There where two different private companies me and my neighbors could use. One of them was the same company that serviced the town. And all of them kinda sucked. They would miss days and often half the trash would end up on the road. I never understood it. I asked neighbors just a 1/4 mile away that was in the town proper and they didn't have any problems. It also happened that about a year before my moving into the house the town actually did supply the garbage disposal and the neighbors claimed that they did a fine job.

                          So most of the people, including me, burn our trash instead of paying the $35 for poor service. And that absolutely sucked. During dry parts of the year you have garbage piling up attracting rats. When you do burn the smoke blows around and really irritates you, especially if you have allergies or asthma.

                          Government regulations often create an opportunity for private industry and do very good things for the public. We often don't recognize it but its true.
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                            Re: The Mixed US Economy

                            Originally posted by El_Gringo_Grande View Post
                            Government regulations often create an opportunity for private industry and do very good things for the public. We often don't recognize it but its true.
                            I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that more and more and more government intervention is healthy. An aspirin a day may help prevent heart disease, but 2 a day won't improve matters and may create other problems over time.

                            See? It's so simple! ;)

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                              Re: The Mixed US Economy

                              Originally posted by leejo View Post
                              I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that more and more and more government intervention is healthy. An aspirin a day may help prevent heart disease, but 2 a day won't improve matters and may create other problems over time.

                              See? It's so simple! ;)
                              I don't disagree with you. My example is a, I think, good example of how a government regulation helped everybody. It created new opportunity for private industry and it protected the health of many people*.

                              My point is that a mixed government, with both social and free market proponents, is the best way to go. It isn't simple but it does generally produce the best results I think.

                              Friedman was a very smart man but he was a academic. And those types have their place but they are often so far removed from everyday life realities that they end up speaking from their arse. Not saying that we shouldn't listen and take their advice into consideration. But we shouldn't just go and implement their ideas outright. That would be a bigger disaster than what we currently must deal with.


                              *I worked on the city crew of my small town for a couple of summers. One thing I did was haul away yard waste from the public parks and homes. The hole we used was just that, a hole. They dug it as deep as they could, meaning they dug until they hit the water table and then backed off a couple feet. Then everything was dumped into it. Including chemicals from businesses and the city itself. (This was not the general garbage dump. That was in the next country over but it wasn't much better, really.)
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