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    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6220192.story

    Alex Kozinski, chief judge of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, granted a 48-hour stay in the obscenity trial of a Hollywood adult filmmaker after the prosecutor requested time to explore "a potential conflict of interest concerning the court having a . . . sexually explicit website with similar material to what is on trial here."

    In an interview Tuesday with The Times, Kozinski acknowledged posting sexual content on his website. Among the images on the site were a photo of naked women on all fours painted to look like cows and a video of a half-dressed man cavorting with a sexually aroused farm animal. He defended some of the adult content as "funny" but conceded that other postings were inappropriate.
    More than a dozen MP3 tracks were listed, and they were neither excerpts nor used to illustrate legal opinions, which experts said might have qualified their copying as "fair use." The artists included Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan and Weird Al Yankovic.
    The porn doesn't bother me. While I recognize that judges have appearances to uphold, I think we can chalk this up to being a mistake. But the music distribution. Man, the courts have been pretty clear. Sounds like the 9th circuit is led by a pirate. Yarrr...
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    Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

    The RIAA should sue him for 100 billion dollars.

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      Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

      His wife's comments.

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        Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

        Originally posted by Iamthefallen View Post
        Notice she doesn't address the issue of copyright infringement?
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          Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

          Well if the home server was intended to provide remote access and not as a distribution platform, I don't think he violated copy right. I can access my home computer from anywhere, does that mean I'm distributing everything on my hd?
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            Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

            Originally posted by Switch View Post
            Well if the home server was intended to provide remote access and not as a distribution platform, I don't think he violated copy right. I can access my home computer from anywhere, does that mean I'm distributing everything on my hd?
            It all depends on how the law is interpreted. I have heard one industry person seem to suggest that if you don't protect your music files and somebody gets them, even if they do it without your permission, you are now violating the law.

            I sincerely doubt that. But the fact is nobody knows what the laws mean. Can license agreements override fair use? Does fair use apply to this new digital content? Are the current laws even valid, legal laws? I don't think any of them have been tested thoroughly.
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              Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

              Um, lots of distribution of copyrighted works is perfectly legal, and nobody should fall into the trap of assuming that just because a song was available it was somehow a criminal violation.

              One of the mp3s they mention (Weird Al Yankovic's "You're Pitiful") is freely distributed from the Weird Al Website as a promo. I will say that again: google the song, and you will find it, from the author, with the words "available as a free internet promo" right next to its download link.

              Do not make the assumption that mp3=crime. That's just sad.
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                Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

                Originally posted by Switchcraft View Post
                Do not make the assumption that mp3=crime. That's just sad.
                Are you assuming that was what I assumed?
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                  Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

                  Originally posted by Switchcraft View Post
                  Um, lots of distribution of copyrighted works is perfectly legal, and nobody should fall into the trap of assuming that just because a song was available it was somehow a criminal violation.

                  One of the mp3s they mention (Weird Al Yankovic's "You're Pitiful") is freely distributed from the Weird Al Website as a promo. I will say that again: google the song, and you will find it, from the author, with the words "available as a free internet promo" right next to its download link.

                  Do not make the assumption that mp3=crime. That's just sad.
                  From what I understand even some of the "free" mp3s /videos have distribution limits. You might be able to download it from a certain website for free but you can't give it to your friends. Probably not enforceable but it is a condition of the download.

                  The are a couple pod casts I listen to that talk about these issues. Here is one http://twit.tv/twil
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                    Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

                    I think the mp3 bit is trivial. What's important to me is the fact that a man is fighting the State for his freedom for the crime of distributing content the State has decided cannot be distributed - at ALL. The fact that Wife, Esq. has found it necessary to attempt, publicly, to reframe the content and the distribution of certain content the judge owns as "bawdy humor" goes straight to the heart of the silliness of attempting to legislate "obscenity".

                    IMO the state has the right to protect donkeys and dogs from being enlisted in such films, the donkeys' or dogs' manifest interest in participating notwithstanding. The state has the right to protect minors from exposure to such content (which, apparently, was not a problem at the judge's house. Wife, Esq., even tried to throw her sons under the buss for any inappropriate content on their server and hardly worried at all about their access to that content - nude woman painted like a cow. HAHAHA come look little Timmy, Esq. It's a naked chick. AND SHE'S PAINTED LIKE A COW. See?!) and certainly to criminalize minors' participation in sex films. And the People have the right not to see such content unless they choose to see it.

                    Imagine a film in which two adults take turns urinating on each other. If that makes you laugh, then I supposed it's "bawdy humor". If it makes you horny, then it's obscene. A man may be about to lose his freedom because of that distinction.

                    So, sorry Wife, Esq., but the judge's donkey boner vid is fair game, IMO.

                    I do agree that the media appear to have been willing co-conspirators in distorting the actual situation, but that's hardly surprising to many of us.

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                      Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

                      Originally posted by leejo View Post
                      I think the mp3 bit is trivial. What's important to me is the fact that a man is fighting the State for his freedom for the crime of distributing content the State has decided cannot be distributed - at ALL. The fact that Wife, Esq. has found it necessary to attempt, publicly, to reframe the content and the distribution of certain content the judge owns as "bawdy humor" goes straight to the heart of the silliness of attempting to legislate "obscenity".

                      IMO the state has the right to protect donkeys and dogs from being enlisted in such films, the donkeys' or dogs' manifest interest in participating notwithstanding. The state has the right to protect minors from exposure to such content (which, apparently, was not a problem at the judge's house. Wife, Esq., even tried to throw her sons under the buss for any inappropriate content on their server and hardly worried at all about their access to that content - nude woman painted like a cow. HAHAHA come look little Timmy, Esq. It's a naked chick. AND SHE'S PAINTED LIKE A COW. See?!) and certainly to criminalize minors' participation in sex films. And the People have the right not to see such content unless they choose to see it.

                      Imagine a film in which two adults take turns urinating on each other. If that makes you laugh, then I supposed it's "bawdy humor". If it makes you horny, then it's obscene. A man may be about to lose his freedom because of that distinction.

                      So, sorry Wife, Esq., but the judge's donkey boner vid is fair game, IMO.

                      I do agree that the media appear to have been willing co-conspirators in distorting the actual situation, but that's hardly surprising to many of us.
                      If I was going to choose a judge on the 9th circuit who I would have preside over an obscenity case against me, it's Kozinski.

                      The lawyer who leaked these photos is a West Coast Jack Thompson who is certainly not doing the rest of us any favors.
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                        Re: Chief Judge of 9th Circuit distributes copyrighted music & pornography on his web

                        For the record, the "donkey" video does not have anything to do with bestiality and has to do with a man being chased by a donkey. It may or may not be funny, but it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with porn.
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