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  • The military have begun domestic police work...

    *has

    http://www.infowars.com/?p=6570

    It appears they've used MP's to populate a DUI road block in California. I get the feeling that they're trying to slowly convince people that the military are just like regular police and there's nothing wrong with using them to enforce civil laws.

    This is bad news bears. Posse Comitatus and Insurrection Act RIP.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
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    Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

    Heh..Infowars.. Nice...
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    • #3
      Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

      Originally posted by Switch View Post
      I get the feeling that they're trying to slowly convince people that the military are just like regular police and there's nothing wrong with using them to enforce civil laws.
      Well, is there? As long as they are properly schooled I see not a big problem in this.

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      • #4
        Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

        Originally posted by Nathrael View Post
        Well, is there? As long as they are properly schooled I see not a big problem in this.
        It is a big problem. Having federally controlled troops enforce local laws is very scary.

        Our founding fathers where scared of a standing army for a reason.
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        • #5
          Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

          Originally posted by Switch View Post
          *has

          http://www.infowars.com/?p=6570

          It appears they've used MP's to populate a DUI road block in California. I get the feeling that they're trying to slowly convince people that the military are just like regular police and there's nothing wrong with using them to enforce civil laws.

          This is bad news bears. Posse Comitatus and Insurrection Act RIP.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
          Switch,

          Clinton misused the military in domestic affairs
          (anyone remember Waco?
          http://www.gao.gov/new.items/99133.pdf
          http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/bl090599.htm) so hold back on your automatic thinking that this is all a Republican Party/Right Wing scheme to overthrow Barack when he is sworn in, in January.

          Oh Noes, the military was spotted at a DUI checkpoint in California!!!! EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!!!!! Our Rights are now going to be taken away!!!!!

          Am I wrong to think that this post was mean to incite an argument rather than a debate?
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            Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

            Originally posted by Delta*RandyShugart* View Post
            Am I wrong to think that this post was mean to incite an argument rather than a debate?
            Heh.. I refer back to the INFOWAR's reference in the original posting..

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            • #7
              Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

              I read the article switch.........talk about paranoia..........this fellow Alex Jones seems more like an entertainer/someone who is trying to reenact the "war of the worlds" Radio Broadcast that had people believing that Aliens in fact were attacking the United States.
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              • #8
                Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                Or wait a second...............is it possible that with the Governor's knowledge that the CHP could have asked for additional assistance to help curb DUI's during the holiday season????????

                Then again, i googled other news stations and haven't found any pictures, or any other stations that covered this so called "hostile takeover in San Bernadino County by the United States Marine Corps."

                Switch, you should take a ride to New York City, Military Personnel are allowed to walk freely after their shifts are over, and NYPD ESU teams are visible in the Wall Street area, and around midtown from time to time. Also the NYPD practices, wait till you read this, speeding convoy's all over New York City Daily in the event of another terrorist attack, or severe emergency.

                Or at least that is what the National Guard Soldier and NYPD Officer standing next to me are telling me to type as I sit here at my cubicle.
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                • #9
                  Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                  DUI has nothing to do with terrorism and that is the only thing the Army should be doing inside the CONUS.
                  PERIOD
                  But that ain't how it is and it has been that way since at least 1989, I know from personal experience that the military routinely violates the PC act and will continue to do so.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                    Originally posted by KomradeObama View Post
                    DUI has nothing to do with terrorism and that is the only thing the Army should be doing inside the CONUS.
                    PERIOD
                    But that ain't how it is and it has been that way since at least 1989, I know from personal experience that the military routinely violates the PC act and will continue to do so.
                    Well its a good thing that the soldiers were part of the United States Marine Corps.

                    Really, it started around 1989? I like story time, please continue, can you add "Once Upon A Time" when you start the story?
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                      Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                      Originally posted by Delta*RandyShugart* View Post
                      Switch,

                      Clinton misused the military in domestic affairs
                      (anyone remember Waco?
                      http://www.gao.gov/new.items/99133.pdf
                      http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/bl090599.htm) so hold back on your automatic thinking that this is all a Republican Party/Right Wing scheme to overthrow Barack when he is sworn in, in January.

                      Oh Noes, the military was spotted at a DUI checkpoint in California!!!! EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!!!!! Our Rights are now going to be taken away!!!!!

                      Am I wrong to think that this post was mean to incite an argument rather than a debate?
                      Where did I attribute this to anyone? All I said was:


                      It appears they've used MP's to populate a DUI road block in California. I get the feeling that they're trying to slowly convince people that the military are just like regular police and there's nothing wrong with using them to enforce civil laws.

                      This is bad news bears. Posse Comitatus and Insurrection Act RIP.
                      |TG|Switch

                      Better known as:
                      That noob who crashed the chopper.
                      That noob who ran over the mine.
                      That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle.
                      That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC...

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                      • #12
                        Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                        I think national guard units controlled by the state governor in an emergency is much different than a federalized military police. I use to be into Alex Jones, and ironically it was got me into learning about politics and history although I no longer follow his paranoid and shambled line of thinking. He makes a lot of money off of scaring people and making many leaps in logic to fit his world view. He pulls too many disparate elements from all kinds of conspiracy theories to make his argument.

                        The military working as the civil police force IS something to be concerned about, but don't let paranoia and fear cripple your reasoning ability and rationality. In my own view, I feel that such a large and bloated military/industrial/media complex is the antithesis of a free society, and something we should be weary of.
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                        • #13
                          Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                          Originally posted by Switch View Post
                          Where did I attribute this to anyone? All I said was:
                          It appears they've used MP's to populate a DUI road block in California. I get the feeling that they're trying to slowly convince people that the military are just like regular police and there's nothing wrong with using them to enforce civil laws.

                          This is bad news bears. Posse Comitatus and Insurrection Act RIP.
                          So you do realize that the title you chose does in fact misrepresent what you actually posted.
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                          • #14
                            Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                            You're not making sense.
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                            That noob who ran over the mine.
                            That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle.
                            That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC...

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                            • #15
                              Re: The military have begun domestic police work...

                              Switch I decided to PM you instead.
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                              Apophis - "TG was created to cater to a VERY specific type of gamer rather than trying to appeal to the greater gaming population.
                              Tactical Gamer is not mainstream.
                              We are not trying to attract mainstream gamers."

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