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    Anyone else heard the news about DHS sternly warning local officials about expected rises in domestic terrorism? Namely right-wing "extremists?"

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=94803
    http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3732

    To me, it sounds like they're gettin into a Football stance against the public since they KNOW we'll refuse to put up with the unending piles of dung our govt. and the wealthy elites (who truly run the world) come up with. Those that fight end up being labeled rightwing extremists, even though most are probably pretty darned liberal.

    They seem to focus on extremism in retribution to the election of BO, but I look at it a bit deeper than that. A black president wouldn't be the root cause of uprising, just a consolidating reason (for certain hate groups) within a bigger cause, namely economic strife and the blatant destruction of America by our leadership.

    It's like when terrorists are given made up motives by the people they effect, just to further a resolution towards obliterating them in defense. When in fact, most of the time their (the terrorists) ethical reasons for a "rebellion" are warranted. In the end, the root causes are never cured.

    Anyways, reports like these make me think on sci-fi works citing how a modern/future govt. (and/or the wealthy that run it) would quell internal rebellion. It's kinda scary if you posit how it could get out of hand.

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    The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.
    Uhh... what? Since when is voting for a third party candidate considered suspicious activity? Ron Paul actually has a number of reasonable arguments against the democratic/republican parties that are set on defending the status quo.

    It's not like 'department of homeland security' is ominous sounding enough already. There is a line between racist organizations that don't like a black man as president, and ordinary americans that think a democratically elected 3rd party president would do a better job. It's dangerous to paint so many people with the same brush.
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      Sorry all the fuss over the term 'right wing extremists' is really buggy me. In particular a '[not] fair and balanced' news group decided to take it personally and blow things out of proportion. Nazis, and the KKK are examples of 'right wing' groups in the literal sense. In the practical sense they are their own wing altogether... The point is that this report is about EXTREMISTS!!! Not regular people. Just like there is a difference between Muslims of the world and Muslim Extremists.

      To be honest they should just drop the 'Right Wing' and call them Extremists in general. Same goes for the term 'Muslim Extremists' they should just be call Extremists. (Or idiots that works too)

      The part about the bumper stickers I'll agree to that is off base and really should not have been included.

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        Remember kids circa 2009, keeping an eye on right-wing nut jobs = CONSTITUTION IS SHREDDED.

        Circa 2002, putting anyone who dares say a bad word about Bush and Co on the no fly list = PROTECTING OUR GREAT COUNTRY!

        Hypocrites, all of them. Conservatives love bashing skulls in when they have a bat. Take their bat away and they whine like ninnies.

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          I don't know whether to laugh or cry, though I can't help but laugh every time a media 'personality' says the word teabag:

          "Fair and balanced" Fox News coverage of "Tea Parties" is anything but

          Examples of Fox News' and Fox Business' April 15 tea party coverage included:

          •Discussing how to show support for tea parties, Fox & Friends' Gretchen Carlson claimed: "You can hang [a teabag] from your mirror, too, like fuzzy dice."
          •Fox News host Megyn Kelly claimed that "you can join the tea party action from your home if you go to the FoxNation.com ... a virtual tax day tea party."
          •Fox Business anchor Cody Willard asked, "Guys, when are we going to wake up and start fighting the fascism that seems to be permeating this country?"
          •Willard further stated that conservatives and liberals are "both fascists who are taking all of my money and building up corporate America with my welfare."
          •Fox News host John Gibson expressed "hope[]" that millions of people" would participate in the protests.
          •Fox Business anchor David Asman told viewers they "need[ed] to go" to the tea party merchandise website "no matter what side of the issue you're on."
          •Willard asked a protester: "Are you worried about me taking these dollars from you ... or destroying those dollars? I mean that's what the government does anyway."
          •On The O'Reilly Factor, Fox News contributor Dennis Miller claimed that "the average American taxpayer feels like they've just been shot in the head in a deck chair on a sinking boat."
          •Fox News host Sean Hannity asked contributor Newt Gingrich "one serious question": "Is this now a battle between capitalism and socialism?"
          •Hannity also asked: "Why don't we have more anger towards government, or is this the anger that finally is beginning to emerge?"
          •Discussing the protests on Hannity, RedState's Erick Erickson stated, "[I]f we don't do something, if we don't turn the corner, we're going to be enslaved to the government."
          •Also on Hannity, radio host Bill "Bubba" Bussey said it was "time for a revolution."
          •Hannity also featured a Thomas Paine imitator to plug the tea parties.

          The democratic and republican parties are both two flavors of the same political market-funded democratic system, but at least with the democratic party the general population (at least statistically) tends to make out better. With the republicans, you have people rallying for things that the party doesn't even intend to deliver on, like lowering taxes for anyone but the top 5% and large corporations. People have every right to protest high taxes or the way the government is spending, but they aren't going to get relief from either of the two political parties. The sad truth is, the democratic party is the best they can hope for. Pretty sad, but not as sad as seeing some people still believing that the republican party stands for low taxes and less spending - or 'values' for that matter.
          Last edited by Mosely; 04-16-2009, 12:55 PM.

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            Re: DHS preempts the "Revolution"

            by domestic terrorism do you mean that female cnn reporter going nutso at people protesting about not wanting higher taxes? Or that Anderson Cooper said on air that he has gotten "tea bagged"?

            Don't know why the DHS went all out, they should have just said: Remember don't walk alone late at night in cities, keep your wallets, pocket books, purses, etc not exposed and keep aware of your surroundings.

            But who knows, with word of Mel Gibson building a religious compound somewhere in the states, there might be some domestic extremist groups who want to make a change in the USA.

            The DHS posting about that might just be an insurance card, though then again i could only imagine what the daily intelligence briefings look like........maybe i should buy that beach front property in Turks and Caico's.
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              Eesh. I don't like it when government reports include the words "terrorism" and "extremist". The media are bound to aggressively expand on those two words until everything gets blown way out of proportion and half of the American populace are scared to even peek out their windows because "the TV said this and said that".

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                Like I said, I think the real problem here is that the govt. doesnt want any form of revolution from its public. It's the same thing that happened in the 18th century with the British. The British sensed the frustration of their colonists and started clamping down on their rights until people got shot "by accident" in the street. Then came the armies.

                This DHS report may seem harmless enough, but it's the equivalent of the British Navy watching out for people dressed up as Indians imo. And so begins an endless escalation of security and domestic terrorism. The more security is in place, the more terrorism shows up and more acceptible REAL extremists become to the public.

                It's a slippery slope I dont care to go down personally. But, in a way I'm glad the govt. is scared.

                What's that saying? "The only good government is one that's afraid of its people."

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                • #9
                  Re: DHS preempts the "Revolution"

                  Originally posted by DrakenViator View Post
                  Sorry all the fuss over the term 'right wing extremists' is really buggy me. In particular a '[not] fair and balanced' news group decided to take it personally and blow things out of proportion. Nazis, and the KKK are examples of 'right wing' groups in the literal sense. In the practical sense they are their own wing altogether... The point is that this report is about EXTREMISTS!!! Not regular people. Just like there is a difference between Muslims of the world and Muslim Extremists.

                  To be honest they should just drop the 'Right Wing' and call them Extremists in general. Same goes for the term 'Muslim Extremists' they should just be call Extremists. (Or idiots that works too)

                  The part about the bumper stickers I'll agree to that is off base and really should not have been included.

                  ~ Draken
                  Actually the Nazi party is a left wing party ( National Socialist Party AKA German Workers' Party)



                  I agree that all extremists should be lumped together. But did you know this report was commissioned under Bush? Did you also know there is a LEFT WING EXTREMIST report?

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                    I'm really glad my class got a good laugh out of this article today, thanks. My SSgt almost wet himself...
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                    • #11
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                      Oklahoma City bombing.
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                      • #12
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                        There's extremists on both sides, they get over-looked when the majority of the country is on their side. It's very sad in my opinion.




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                          Re: DHS preempts the "Revolution"

                          I think established government needs a revolution every once and a great while just to remind it who's boss and keep a measure of sanity in governance. I would hope that in our representative democracy, we would be able to use those channels to peacefully elect a government that could enact these changes without violence.

                          I believe both parties are now so deeply entrenched in the government bureaucracy, that neither is willing to voluntary make the deep concessions necessary to promote the long term fiscal responsibility of the country. This includes reining in our military spending to reasonable, sustainable levels and not that of supporting an ever expanding American empire, and the unquenchable thirst of consumer demand that warrants its expansion.

                          I don't know about all of you, but we went to war with the British to fight against the abuses of colonial empire, yet here we are knee deep in maintaining a new economic/military empire of our own creation. I think our government for most of the 20th century, and the American people are all ultimately all traitors to our founding ideals, just for the temporary comfort of material wealth and power. The argument could be made that we had no real choice to become what we have, but I believe that time is over. The people (large corporate interests) and those in government power have chosen the path we have taken up to this point, and now we need to accept a lesser, yet still important role in world affairs.

                          Stick with our strengths: representative democracy, human rights, an immigrant friendly ideal based society, and economic liberalism. Lead by humble example, and not enforcing it through worldwide dominance. We will all suffer under a government that is more concerned with maintaining 'security' (whether perceived or real) than upholding the constitutional, and ultimately innate protection of our personal liberties.
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                            Originally posted by El_Gringo_Grande View Post
                            Oklahoma City bombing.
                            World Trade Center (pt1 and pt2)... But of course that wasn't terrorism...that was two instances of "man caused disasters"..

                            Damn..even the show "24" has gone Enviro green.. Bleh... Just shoot someone in the knee Jack!! Geez..
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                            • #15
                              Re: DHS preempts the "Revolution"

                              Originally posted by Global.Cooling View Post
                              Actually the Nazi party is a left wing party ( National Socialist Party AKA German Workers' Party)
                              This is commonly spewed by Savage, etc. but is completely wrong. It sounds like they are in name, but their politics were anything but purely left, or purely right. In fact, if you put any weight behind the 2 axis political spectrum (that test that pops up here occasionally from our friends in the Lib party). They are completely authoritarian, with elements of both left and right in their economic policies.

                              Also, Godwin.
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