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    Just look at what your tax money is going for! Isn't it wonderful?!

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-54832242.html

    The 2008 event took place in New Orleans, and the keynote speaker was the recently indicted (and since convicted) Rep. William Jefferson, D-La. Some of the 2008 workshops taught bureaucrats to navigate the bureaucracy, and are at least sort of related to training for government work -- for example, "How to Win" when suing the government through an Equal Employment Opportunity complaint, or "How to Succeed (get Promoted) in Government." Many were self-help workshops on personal finance, maintaining one's credit rating, and "Starting Your Own Business Using Government Money/Buying Investment Properties."
    Go get a federal job so that you, too, can get an extra vacation, paid for by your boss, on which you can learn how to cook, steer your way to a promotion, start your own business on the side, and improve your credit rating.
    Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

    snooggums' density principal: "The more dense a population, the more dense a population."

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    Re: Cost of government

    Originally posted by ScratchMonkey View Post
    Just look at what your tax money is going for! Isn't it wonderful?!

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-54832242.html
    Add this to the very long list of egregious goverment usurpations of power and privilege. The sad reality is that this nonsense goes completely unnoticed by the American public and mainstream press. The American flame of liberty has died down to a smoldering flicker. People should be outraged by this absurdity, sadly they are not.
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      Re: Cost of government

      As someone who has a lot of friends and family who work in various forms of entertainment jobs... Yay!

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        Empirical evidence against Big Government:

        http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/1...ig-government/

        Note that the two videos are not uniformly anti-government, but recognize some useful aspects of government.
        Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

        snooggums' density principal: "The more dense a population, the more dense a population."

        Iliana: "You're a great friend but if we're ever chased by zombies I'm tripping you."

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          How did this get tagged with socialism?

          As for the first link I am surprised all of this did not come up sooner, the majority of these figures run from 2000 to 2008, I wonder what else happened in that time frame up in Washington? That aside, this is absurd. Hopefully if the white house delivers on promises of more transparency in the government this will become a less common occurrence. Although, I didn't hear Republicans decrying this sort of activity when they were complaining about pork-barrel spending. I do remember them decrying research involving fruit flies, which sounds frivolous unless you know anything at all about genetic research and realize that this sort of thing is crucial. I also seem to remember claims that the President was partial to Hawaii because the U.S. Government is helping to fund one of the most amazing and exciting additions to astronomy in the telescope going up there.

          I don't really care to spend the time watching a video, but I am sure that it was insightful. I just hope it took into account Western cultures when it was analyzing Western governments. By the very nature of our culture we require more governance than the typical wealthy Eastern cultures of countries like Japan. Simple economic fact: Western cultures will under-produce those goods and services which benefit society more than it does the individual. It is up to the government to incentivize these sort of things for us with entities like the EPA.

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            Re: Cost of government

            Originally posted by Uchiha Obito View Post
            How did this get tagged with socialism?
            I figured it was only a matter of time before someone came in arguing that government does a better job of deciding how scarce resources should be allocated. (That's a defining characteristic of socialism. If you're gonna advocate that, wear the label proudly. Canada, Europe, Israel, and India all do. Only a tiny minority in the US think it's a Bad Thing.)

            I didn't hear Republicans decrying this sort of activity when they were complaining about pork-barrel spending.
            I detest Republican fiscal hypocrisy even more than the honest fiscal irresponsibility of the left. You'll get no argument from me on that point.

            By the very nature of our culture we require more governance than the typical wealthy Eastern cultures of countries like Japan.
            You mean US citizens are more child-like and hence need a bigger nanny state to care for them?

            The study does compare only wealthy western economies, to eliminate gross differences in the nature of 3rd world governments. And it uses a wide variety of indicators, many from the left, to avoid skew induced by conservative sources.
            Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?

            snooggums' density principal: "The more dense a population, the more dense a population."

            Iliana: "You're a great friend but if we're ever chased by zombies I'm tripping you."

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              I agree with you on all that scratch, but to clarify this:

              You mean US citizens are more child-like and hence need a bigger nanny state to care for them?
              It simply means this: In the U.S. we will underproduce any good or service which benefits society more than it does an individual. A good exampled of this would be littering. It is convenient and far easier to simply drop your trash where you are than to go find a trash can. The act of littering impacts an individual far less than it does society as a whole. In fact, littering incurs an economic cost for us in the forms of time and effort. As a society, we have instituted social stigmas which tell us that littering is bad and that we should not do it. We simply would not limit our littering otherwise. In the case of far more complex issues like corporations polluting it requires a government entity to play the enforcer.

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