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    You guys need to check out these documentaries when you get time.
    There all made by Alex Jones and a lot of it is starting make sense of what is happening around us.

    Endgame
    Obama Deception
    Fall of the Republic

    All these videos can be watched on youtube for free.
    For those of you that follow Glenn Beck, you will definately like what Alex Jones is doing.

    Just wondering, how many of you have heard of infowars.com website or know of Alex Jones?

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    LOL...Glenn Beck. Now theres someone to take seriously. :madsmile:
    I have a problem taking political bearings from someone who does standup comedy that only airs in movie theaters (whats the matter Glenn, too good for cable?).

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    • #3
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      I will say that I know of infowars and Alex Jones, not that I believe in anything I've heard him say.

      Also, suggest moving this to the sandbox...

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        isnt beck the guy who crys all the time, yeah no thanks.

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        • #5
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          No that's Anderson Cooper, I think.

          Either way, infowars. lol.

          Crimethinc, lol.
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            lol

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            • #7
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              Let me give myself a lobotomy first.
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              • #8
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                Dude, you are so right! There is a cabal against good, upstanding, patriotic, Jesus loving Americans.

                A certain group of people being led by the likes of Hussein Obama is trying to destroy the good people of this nation. Only those enlightened can see the truth. Geniuses like Glenn Beck will show us the way out of the black hole that is engulfing our glorious God fearing country.

                (Man, I really want to work for Fox. Writing the drivel is so much fun and takes up almost no mental capacity. Wonder what I would get for my soul?)
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                • #9
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                  I used to be a big fan of Alex Jones years ago until I became more knowledgeable with history/news. Like most conspiracy theorists, he strings together a number of disparate 'facts' and world views, then wraps it into a neat package of paranoia to sell to as many people who will listen to him. Fear mongering as it turns out, can make you quite a lot of money.

                  It is best to fight irrationality and embrace reason, rather than to give in paranoia and fear. Conspiracy theories are not new by any means, and it is much easier for someone to pass off their view of complex subjects as 'truths' to an unsuspecting populace who isn't intimately familiar with the subject matter. The internet is a mixed blessing, where anybody can put their point of view out there without the necessary fact checking and rational debate to confirm or debase an individuals claims.
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                    Originally posted by aeroripper View Post
                    I used to be a big fan of Alex Jones years ago until I became more knowledgeable with history/news. Like most conspiracy theorists, he strings together a number of disparate 'facts' and world views, then wraps it into a neat package of paranoia to sell to as many people who will listen to him. Fear mongering as it turns out, can make you quite a lot of money.

                    It is best to fight irrationality and embrace reason, rather than to give in paranoia and fear. Conspiracy theories are not new by any means, and it is much easier for someone to pass off their view of complex subjects as 'truths' to an unsuspecting populace who isn't intimately familiar with the subject matter. The internet is a mixed blessing, where anybody can put their point of view out there without the necessary fact checking and rational debate to confirm or debase an individuals claims.
                    Well said. Alex Jones and his group have one really big problem. They take factual events and expand them into elaborate conspiracies that create an overstated opinion that is only profitable for Jones and his little media dynasty. If they only stuck to the facts -wich are sufficient to illustrate that goverments and corporations don't always have liberty and the well being of the citizens as first priority- they could do alot more good. Instead they embark on this new world order crusade wich only further distances themselves from mainstream media and any form of credibility. My opinion on the new world order is this. Do goverments, banks and corporations seem to help and compliment each other to the detriment of the public. Yes. But any other theory or concept of a group of people that are plotting to take over the world just doesn't work for me, even if it does have some merit in its original form.
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                    • #11
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                      Just for more examples of how you can over-simplify a topic by not really understanding it:

                      World Government: From Alex Jones perspective


                      http://www.infowars.com/obama-will-s...ld-government/

                      "Obama will surrender America to world government"

                      Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective – a New World Order – can emerge. . . Now, we can see a New World Order coming into view. A world in which there is a very real prospect for a New World Order. . .A world where the United Nations, freed from a Cold War stalemate, is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders.” -George H.W. Bush
                      He see's the United Nations as an evil entity out to destroy our liberty and help usher in a new global totalitarian dictatorship complete with economic controls, UN-mandated climate taxes, and turning us all into slaves that can be tracked anywhere.

                      World Government: From a practical standpoint


                      "Obama will promote America (albeit a strong one) as a nation among many nations"

                      I see this more as a clash of ideologies between being stuck in the past, or the want to move our species into the future. What is our species ultimate goal on this planet? I see our entire history as a long line of progress (with many setbacks) that has been greatly accelerated in the last 150 years. This is a COMPLEX and worldwide issue with many different viewpoints and voices.

                      The 'globalist' movement is a very real desire for a lasting peace between nations, and the (hopeful) end to massive industrial powered world wars that we have endured twice in the last century. It is hard for some Americans to understand the desire for rules or limits against making war since our homeland was spared the worst of its atrocities.

                      After the horror of two world wars, the planet teetered on the brink of nuclear annihilation between two powerful nations afterward for almost half a century that only recently ended.

                      America is no longer the center of the world (it wasn't going to last forever, nor should it). I see some form of eventual world governance and cooperation beyond this point in history as inevitable. The real discussion should center on what form this will take. As an American, I am weary of ANYBODY taking away my liberties including my own government, much less an unelected global body. We are guardians of our rights enshrined in our Constitution, but we must be mindful that we are not the only ones in the world.

                      Forms:

                      1) A democratic world government that is comprised of representatives of every nation. The world is divided in blocs where some groups of nations will vote on issues that directly effect their countries (presidents, prime ministers etc...) A central currency (Euro, Amero etc...) can be used to simplify international trade between continents, or national currencies (dollar, pounds, francs etc...) are used at the local level. Common defense would be decided by bloc members and resemble something like NATO (an attack on one is an attack on all). How well this would work in practice is debatable.

                      Nations are able to continue their own traditions and forms of government (constitutional republic, communist, socialist etc...). Global decisions are decided upon by consensus and common interests.

                      The 'endgame' for our species in this scenario is worldwide trading and commerce, relative peace between many nations and blocs, and the eventual expansion onto other planets.

                      2) An autocratic, unrepresented world government that centralizes power and dictates world taxes, commands a globe trotting army that can invade any nation legally, and complete control over the world's money supply.

                      Monetary policy is set for the entire planet, and if nations refuse to accept it they are invaded and replaced with a friendly puppet government, or heavily taxed until eventual compliance. Nations give up their power of national autonomy and defense and must subject to a U.N. (or some new global agency) international army. There is no regard for personal privacy, and all world citizens must subject to implanted tracking devices or some global identification card. Unfettered capitalism suppresses personal liberties for the ultimate goal of profit. The world is a pyramid with the near demigods at the top, and the peasants that work its machinations at the bottom.

                      The 'endgame' for our species in this scenario depends on the people at the top rather than a consensus of the world's nations.


                      3) Rich nations (both democratic, undemocratic, or a mix) vie for influence and power, at the expense of the weak and poorer nations. Any fair international representation is a facade for the whims of the most powerful nations. World policy is decided upon by those in these powerful countries, much as the U.S. had declared itself 'leader of the free world' for many decades. Power shifts hands between these countries as time goes on and wars are decided nationally (for better or worse).

                      If we are able to form a just and democratic governing system that is burdened by the cause of peace and understanding, then we certainly have something to look forward to in this century.
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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by aeroripper View Post
                        "Obama will surrender America to world government"
                        Well, I, for one, am looking forward to being a proud member of the United Federation of Planets.

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                        • #13
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                          I love Alex Jones, and I'm Glenn Beck's only Belgian fan. They amuse me to no end.

                          Yet...

                          They seem to be coming from ideologically very different angles. I do not think they would get along at all. Their conclusions are often similar though.
                          The difference is, if Bush were in power, Girly Beck would be about as critical of him as Stephen Colbert is. While AJ would be all over anyone in power. Big difference there. Glenn Beck is supporting a political power, while AJ is sort of a rosy anarchist I would guess.

                          Both are so amusing though. AJ is my favorite conspiracy source. He is right up there with the Nibiru-2012-Annunaki-Atlantis guys. Many things dear Alex starts off with even make sense. He uses valid questions as a starting point (while GB is just all drama and no sense anywhere).

                          The spot where Alex Jones goes of the rails though is his paranoid conclusions.

                          One DAMNING example: [b] ANYONE who thinks that at any point in any way Bush and the UN were in a plot TOGETHER... Is living in lala-land.[\b]

                          I mean to think that the man who appointed John -blow one story of the UN building- Bolton to the UN is working with them... Hiiihaaaaaar (=insane laughing sound similar to sound of angry seagull).

                          Well, OFPmonkeyspanker, the thread is amusing, and Glenn is incredibly hilarious. But please reconsider believing these guys. Both are insane, ignorant, and the more people believe them, dangerous. I know you probably won't believe me, since you seem to believe them. I can only hope your mind is still open and maleable enough to consider that these people possibly don't have a clue what they are blabbering on about.

                          As an alternative, check out Chomsky. But he will be too liberal for you. So then maybe check out Christopher Hitchens. He is way too right-wing for me, I don't like him. But at least he is a respectable man that can reason above pre-school level. Well. And give up watching fox :p, unless for amusement reasons like me :). Remember when he cried HiiiHAAAAR!

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                          • #14
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                            Oh Al, you scared me with that opening sentence!

                            Yeah, Glenn Beck was as critical of Bush as Colbert was :) Have you seen the John Stewart impression of Glenn Beck from the Daily Show already? South Park did a great job spoofing Beck this week too!
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Ferris Bueller View Post
                              Well, I, for one, am looking forward to being a proud member of the United Federation of Planets.
                              Sign me up! :row__642:
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