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  • Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

    I found Grasshoppa's account on Ebay. Search for Thunderhorn TIP and there it is. Very Interesting.

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    Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

    Sure is and he already has a bid on it so id say it is sold...
    Candrice 63 Warrior
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    • #3
      Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

      Not a guildie anymore.

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      • #4
        Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

        I have a feeling that account will be blown away by Blizz.

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        • #5
          Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

          http://cgi.ebay.com/WOW-world-of-war...QQcmdZViewItem


          See Luna I did it this time..lol
          Candrice 63 Warrior
          Ricca 70 Rogue
          Machelle 70 Mage
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          • #6
            Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

            Originally posted by candrice
            You get a cookie! :icon19:

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            • #7
              Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

              b/c of that disclaimer Blizzard cannot do anything to Gwen, b/c by legal technicalities he is in the right. If I had the money, ide prob buy it.

              "REMEMBER! Pillage first THEN Burn!"

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              • #8
                Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                Um. It doesn't take a whole lot of brainwork to figure out exactly what Grasshoppa is doing. If blizz see's it, they have every right to sink that paticular battleship... In their End user agreement, it very clearly states taht you are NOT to give out your password to anybody.

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                • #9
                  Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                  where does it say that I dont see it.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                    Dear God Zedd, holy page-long post.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                      From the Terms of Use Agreement (this not what was quoted by Zedd...but WAS referenced in it)

                      E. Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize the transfer of Accounts, and any authorized transfer of the World of Warcraft software (as set forth on the worldofwarcraft.com website) will result in the permanent deletion of the Account attached to that software. You may not offer any Account for sale or trade, and any such offer is a violation of this Agreement and may result in suspension or termination of the Account.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                        Yes, but if u read the disclaimer he is not selling the account, you are paying him for the time he has invested (kinda like a power level services) and the account is free.

                        "You are bidding on my time leveling for this account. Said account remains the property of Blizzard. You will not 'OWN' the account, for it belongs to Blizzard. The only thing you are bidding on is the time I have invested into the account. All characters, items, in-game currency, and anything else associated with this auction will remain the property of Blizzard."

                        "REMEMBER! Pillage first THEN Burn!"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                          Originally posted by caldsteven
                          Yes, but if u read the disclaimer he is not selling the account, you are paying him for the time he has invested (kinda like a power level services) and the account is free.

                          "You are bidding on my time leveling for this account. Said account remains the property of Blizzard. You will not 'OWN' the account, for it belongs to Blizzard. The only thing you are bidding on is the time I have invested into the account. All characters, items, in-game currency, and anything else associated with this auction will remain the property of Blizzard."
                          Blizz can still do it...this is their "out"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                            If u also read is states that "By bidding on, inquiring about, or viewing this auction you are stating that you are in NO way affiliated with Blizzard Entertainment, ESA - Entertainment Software Association, or any associated entity."
                            So if Blizzard did do something, then they could be held accountable.

                            "REMEMBER! Pillage first THEN Burn!"

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                            • #15
                              Re: Wow...A guildie is selling his account on ebay...

                              Held accountable for what? They can terminate the license agreement at any time for any reason (as can you). The only thing Blizz can't do is take him to court (which that statement won't hold water in court either). I think he made a mistake by listing his toon names.

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