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  • Attention DPS Warriors!!!

    I need your help with a question...

    Considering the future and 25 man instances that are a step up from Karazhan...

    What do you think the minimum spec for a DPS warrior should be for this sort of raiding.

    As a starting point for discussion, consider this...

    Unbuffed AP of 1,400, 8,500 health (with 2 hander), armor of 7,500 or so. In Defensive stance with 1 hand/shield, armor of 12,000...defense at 470+...health of 11,500.

    As a basis for judging this, we need to consider what you'd look like with "most" of your gear being the epics from Karazhan (or their equivalent).
    Beep


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    Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

    Speaking as MissDelaney here...

    There are Karazhan DPS Warrior plate epics? where? (I haven't really noticed any, short of T4.)
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    • #3
      Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

      First revision...taking into account feedback from the Warrior Forum...thinking these are minimums.

      Attack Power =1,500
      Crit % = 25%
      Hit Rating = 120
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      • #4
        Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

        Originally posted by beep View Post
        First revision...taking into account feedback from the Warrior Forum...thinking these are minimums.

        Attack Power =1,500
        Crit % = 25%
        Hit Rating = 120
        Is that 120 hit rating for a DW fury warrior? or a MS warrior? Are we going to actually make a blanket guide for this?

        Just wondering... As Delaney has something like 29% crit rating, and.. um. a 20 hit rating... She's MS/Flurry, and doesn't really miss all that much.

        Also, if my ramblings aren't welcome in this discussion cause my warrior is an alt, let me know. :) just trying to help.
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        I'm planning on respeccing to Irritation pretty soon. Granted, I'll lose the burst DPS from Pissing People Off Outright, but I'll get DoT's and higher damage through AoE's.

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        • #5
          Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

          Originally posted by beep View Post
          First revision...taking into account feedback from the Warrior Forum...thinking these are minimums.

          Attack Power =1,500
          Crit % = 25%
          Hit Rating = 120
          I wouldn't put those at the minimum, that is more of mid-range goal. 80%-85% of those should be the minimum. The crit rating is assumed to be in Bezerker stance.

          As for tank stats, there is no excuse for not having 490+ def in some configuration of your gear. In my max def gear, I have 11.5k AC, 11k HP, ~33% avoidance, ~20%block, and 497 def. I have no drops from KZ. My lone KZ item is the rep based ring.
          Uglyduck - Spec varies - Currently Prot
          MMORPG = Many Men Online Role-Playing as Girls

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          • #6
            Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

            Originally posted by Manny View Post
            Is that 120 hit rating for a DW fury warrior? or a MS warrior? Are we going to actually make a blanket guide for this?

            Just wondering... As Delaney has something like 29% crit rating, and.. um. a 20 hit rating... She's MS/Flurry, and doesn't really miss all that much.

            Also, if my ramblings aren't welcome in this discussion cause my warrior is an alt, let me know. :) just trying to help.
            Good point, my post is in reference to a MS spec'd DPSer. For a DW spec'd warrior the hit rating needs to be much higher. MS warriors tend to target a hit rating that yields a +hit of about 3%-5%. DW warriors need 10%-15% +hit.

            BTW, I highly recommend using a gear set addon ( Outfitter or Itemrack ). I have about 10 different gear configurations set up for various encounters. All of them have a different balance of +hit, +crit, AP, AC, and HPs for maximizing my effectiveness in a group. For example, I have one specific for running heroics, it trades some +crit for more +hit. I have 2 sets for tanking, one that maximizes my +def for lvl 73 mobs that I have to tank, and another that gives me a liitle more stamina and avoidance for normal 5 man instances.

            I tend to carry a lot of gear on me at all times and shift things around quite a bit to just a little more out of my character.
            Uglyduck - Spec varies - Currently Prot
            MMORPG = Many Men Online Role-Playing as Girls

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            • #7
              Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

              OK...trying again...

              For Arms/MS spec (unbuffed) AP of 1,300+, +Crit of 25%+, no green gear.

              For Fury/DW spec (unbuffed): AP of 1,300+, +Crit of 15%, hit rating of 120+, no green gear.

              For both offensive specs, when in defensive stance/tanking gear should have 490+ def, 11,000+ health, armor of 11,500+.

              For Prot Spec tanks (unbuffed), def of 490+, health of 12,750+, armor of 12,000+, no green gear.

              Comments?
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              • #8
                Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

                Originally posted by beep View Post
                For Fury/DW spec (unbuffed): AP of 1,300+, +Crit of 15%, hit rating of 120+, no green gear.
                DW still needs a high crit rate to keep Flurry up, 25% at least.

                Originally posted by beep View Post
                For both offensive specs, when in defensive stance/tanking gear should have 490+ def, 11,000+ health, armor of 11,500+.
                Very achievable without KZ gear. A good target for any DPS/OT.

                Originally posted by beep View Post
                For Prot Spec tanks (unbuffed), def of 490+, health of 12,750+, armor of 12,000+, no green gear.
                I thought this was about DPSers going into 25man content. Anyways, for a KZ geared warrior that is to low. A fully KZ geared warrior should be approaching 15k AC, 13.5k HPs, ~36% avoidance, ~25% block, and of course 490+ def.

                The requirement of "no green gear" IMO is retarded. The rareness of an item does not reflect the quality or effectivness of a particular item. For example [item]Sylvanaar Champion's Shoulders[/item] are some of the best plate dps shoulders immeadiatly available.
                Uglyduck - Spec varies - Currently Prot
                MMORPG = Many Men Online Role-Playing as Girls

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                • #9
                  Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

                  Good input, Duck...anyone else???

                  I want to wrap this up in the next day or so!!

                  For Arms/MS spec (unbuffed) AP of 1,500+, +Crit of 25%+.

                  For Fury/DW spec (unbuffed): AP of 1,500+, +Crit of 25%, hit rating of 200+.

                  For both offensive specs, when in defensive stance/tanking gear should have 490+ def, 12,000+ health, armor of 12,500+.

                  For comparison...Protection Spec (unbuffed) tank will need 490+ def, 13,000+ health, 13,500+ armor, Dodge+parry of 32%+, Block 22%+.
                  Last edited by beep; 06-28-2007, 04:00 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

                    Hit rating of 200+ would be kinda hard pre-kara, but 150 is definitely obtainable.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

                      Originally posted by Halten View Post
                      Hit rating of 200+ would be kinda hard pre-kara, but 150 is definitely obtainable.
                      Basically, we're thinking POST-KARA minimums for Gruul's Lair and beyond...
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                      • #12
                        Re: Attention DPS Warriors!!!

                        doh :P

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