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    So, the other night I began wondering about my early days in gaming. I am curious, what was your first strategy game?

    My first strategy game was STARS! which was released in '95.



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    My first RTS game was Dune II. I loved the hell out of that game when I was a kid! I played both the Amiga and PC versions; I liked the PC version better,and while Amiga version had this pretty cool tune, it was the only one they had for the majority of the in-game music! It was soothing, but after about 40 mins, it got real annoying! XD

    Honorable mentions from around the same time:

    I don't remember which was my first, but my favorite 4X strategy game was MOO2 followed VERY closely by M.A.X. They both had very balanced gameplay, and the atmosphere's in the game were appropriate. Very few games IMHO actually get the UI's to match the atmosphere in the game and these do a really good job of that.

    My favorite tactical-turn-based game though, was a tie between UFO: Enemy Unknown(or XCOM UFO:Defense in America) and its sequel Terror from the Deep. These games were so scary to me as a kid!XD But I think this is another case of the atmosphere done right! It was also very hard, even at the easiest difficulty. One shot in the beginning is enough to murder one of your guys and the enemy aims VERY well! The more you research though, the easier the fight becomes!

    The first one was rebooted, and it was pretty good but I don't think it hit the nail on the head. What I am really excited by now is by the openXcom project. They made it so that it runs on modern systems, fixed all the known bugs, can be modded, and has some modern features to it. It is really cool, and if you like both games like I did, keep an eye on it. They are eventually going to make it so that you can play Terror from the Deep on it!
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    • #3
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      Command HQ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_HQ - 1991)! Pretty sure it was the first strategy game I played on PC (unless you count Chess). Prior to that it was Flight Sims :)

      After that I put countless hours into Masters of Orion and UFO. To this day I get the shakes thinking about this one battle where a Chryssalid's snuck up on my Commander and turned a soldier I had spent days making a perfect psionic killing machine into a drooling zombie... I've blocked out the horror of all the Recruits I sent to their deaths as meat shields. The first two guys of the Sky Ranger were *always* toast.

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      • #4
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        I believe my first Strategy game was Command and Conquer Red Alert way back in i think 1996 that was a great series back in the day i think i played them up to Tiberium Wars don't know how the new ones are holding up.

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        • #5
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          Age of Empires 2 back in '99 or so. (I started late, so sure me)

          Really the first game I ever got to put any decent time and effort into. What a great one that was.

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          • #6
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            I started out with the original Command & Conquer in 1995. The first time I played was at my friends house, they couldn't get me off it. I didn't even have a computer at the time, but i went out and bought my first one the next day. ;)


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              I see everyone mentioning RTS games, so hopefully by me bringing in a TBS game I'm not ruining the vibe of the discussion so far...

              My first strategy game was actually a turn-based strategy (TBS) known as M.A.X. (Mechanized Assault & Exploration). Here's a link to the game on GOG.com. It's fairly ancient now. I didn't get to play it until it had become a bottom-of-the-barrel bargain bin item back in late 1998. I played it on my family's then new Sony VAIO desktop running Windows 98 (first edition). I played the hell out of it. I had fully upgraded scouts and tanks with the best balance of speed over firepower (60/40 split or so). My tanks could singly take on any 3-5 upgraded AI tanks or ~12 AI scouts. Too bad I didn't have a great internet connection back then (had dial-up, needed at least ISDN for enjoyable online play).

              My second strategy game was actually Total Annihilation. Yes the title that spawned lookalikes like Supreme Commander and other followup "real-time strategy" games years later. I actually picked this up for my birthday from a game boutique downtown (Chicago) for a hefty $30 the following January. It was still brand new, sealed in the box. After too many exhaustive hours, I went looking for a sequel some years later. Around mid-2000, I actually found Total Annihilation Kingdoms at the same store (it was having a closeout sale). I decided not to buy it based on the confusing back cover of the box (it had few words and lots of pixelated pictures of new units). The store manager didn't know squat about it and by then Cavedog Entertainment was a puff of smoke blowing in the wind (aka defunct). Online was an issue for me since dial-up was too slow to connect to most of the games. I would timeout trying to download the map updates and unit files.

              My next foray was the classic Starcraft and later Brood War expansion (early 1999). Also wished I had a good internet connection to play that. It was also one of the first games I started modding and what piqued my modding interest. Suffice to say after hundreds and hundreds of hours playing the game to death offline, I wanted more out of the units.

              After that, I ended up picking up Command & Conquer and almost all of the Westwood titles that followed (also 1999). The rest is history.

              Edit: Aw hell. I see Scratchy already mentioned M.A.X. Dang!
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                Honorable mentions, huh? Guess I should say Alpha Centauri and Tiberian Sun were my first strategy games that were not made during the era of windows 3.0 and '95.

                Speaking of 3.0, I hate how some of the college kids say that Windows XP was the first OS that they ever used. I still remember DOS and even the Commodore 64. If I wanted to play Chuck Yeager, I had to know DoS, even if I was a little kid...

                Have to say my all time favorite is Alpha Centauri. It is way better than Civ Beyond Earth. Heck, they even had books about Alpha Centauri.



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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Strait Raider View Post
                  Age of Empires 2 back in '99 or so. (I started late, so sure me)

                  Really the first game I ever got to put any decent time and effort into. What a great one that was.

                  Byzantines FTW
                  I think I recall AOE:Rome. But AOEII is my first RTS love. I loved wrecking the Byzantines game. :D

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                    Originally posted by Strait Raider View Post
                    Age of Empires 2 back in '99 or so. (I started late, so sure me)

                    Really the first game I ever got to put any decent time and effort into. What a great one that was.

                    Byzantines FTW
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                    • #11
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                      Command HQ mentioned above was probably my first RTS first I can remember anyway but my first TBS was Empire. The graphics were ASCII and the longer the game went the longer the AI turns lasted. I remember AI turns last over 40 mins. I would play games or do assignments on a computer next to me while I waited.


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                        Originally posted by Scattershot View Post
                        Command HQ mentioned above was probably my first RTS first I can remember anyway but my first TBS was Empire. The graphics were ASCII and the longer the game went the longer the AI turns lasted. I remember AI turns last over 40 mins. I would play games or do assignments on a computer next to me while I waited.
                        Alpha Centauri was bad that way. Sheesh, some days it would require me to hold the space bar just to get through a round.



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                          I'm certain that I've missed a few, but what left a memorable experience and battles was TotalWar:Shogun.
                          There was a MP clan that was famous for using only cavalry units. I have forgotten their exact clan name. I think it was called the "Khans". They were great strategists and used cavalry units to their max potentials within the game environment.
                          Of course to off set their battlefield prowess, everyone else used Ashigaru units (foot unit with long spikes) to repel their shock tactics. Daishi units were awesome too, as well as the monk units.

                          What really drew me into this game to me at least. As the commander of your troops, you needed to fully utilise the terrain you'd choose to fight in on the go, the tactics involved, your troops fatigue, their formation also coming into play as well as their morale.

                          At some point, someone realised that having only a certain levels of Ashigarus. To get the maximum number into battle was an effective tactic in your selection of unit choices prior to the actual battle itself. Otherwise known as the 'Ashigaru rush' at the time.

                          Thanks to TotalWar: Shogun, I've picked up Kendo as a result. I've always had an interest in the Warrior codes of the past, but this game just gave me that extra push to become a Kendoka. Which sadly I have shelved for the time being, breaking the code as a result. :)

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                            +1 command and conquer - I miss those days
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